I read through the answers and your comments so I "cheated" and have more information to work with.
If you where bi then most likely you still are bi. If one person in the family is bi, chances are somewhat higher that the other will be as well.
Bisexuality is perhaps 90% of the whole population - granted most are something like 90% straight and 10% gay and due to social and religious and traditional pressures totally sublimate their gay side and claim to be 100% hetero, this doesn't change the fact that they are really 'bi'.
This may very well be why so many 'straight' men are anti-gay since they are told they can't be bi/gay and if they even think about it once (which most men think about it at least once) that sets up a string of doubt. When in most cases knowing that they are mostly straight and that it is normal would mean that they would most likely continue to identify with being straight and never act on their 'gay side'.
I mention this because it is highly probable that your dad is bisexual, having a tiny bit of 'the gay' in him and has been programed that it is wrong and has feelings of guilt and most likely worries that he may pass 'the gay' on to his kids that his reaction was as it was.
Now that I have armed you with a little human psychology you and your brother can sit down and have a 'heart to heart' chat and discuss how you two will strive to not remind your father that your brother is bi or gay.
Further, if your brother does come out to your father now and your father knows your bi he might (most probable) blame you, either accuse you of 'turning' your brother or 'teaching' him how to be 'that way'.
The impact here is obvious.
Since you are 17 and your brother are 15 legally this can be problematic - depending on how against 'the gay' your father is.
For the Record, my little brother is gay. I'm 'straight' or identify as straight while I might have a tiny leaning to the gay side.
I knew when he was around 15 - I just 'knew'. He did 'come out' to me when he was like 22 or 23, I laughed and said something like 'Yeah and??? tell me something I don't know.'
Our parents did not take the news too well. Of course mother didn't take the news very well to find out that my brother was living with a black man either... my mother is an old southern bigot - has been practicing all her life.
But I have always been there for my brother - I have never had a reason to judge him, and I have accepted nearly all of his Boy Friends as 'part of the family'. The two I didn't not accept had nothing to do with their sexuality, but much to do with other behaviors.
My brother is currently 'married' (domestic partnership) to a nice 'bear' of a man. they have lived together for well over a decade.
Mother has not set foot in their house, nor is 'HIM' allowed over this is do mostly to the color of his skin (My brother's man is black).
Father is distant on the whole subject and doesn't Talk about it at all.
These attitudes have had a profound affect on my brother who has reached out to me more than once to 'cry on my shoulder' and to seek some comfort.
So the depth of the problem is a little more complicated than just today's situation. I do not know your folks but if they are anything like mine this may be a life long uphill losing battle and you and your brother may find that the true family is just you two.
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Sorry, Athrael, but you are wrong on nearly all counts. First, you have it reversed. 90% of all people are strictly heterosexual, not only in deed but in thought. They only dream of the opposite sex in erotic dreams and are never atrracted to the same sex in a sexual way. It is probably more than 90%, but I am being generous. Strictly homosexual people are no more than 1-2% of the total population. There are those who "could perform homosexual acts" if in an isolated situation with no contact with the opposite sex for a long time. But that does not make them homosexual. They are sometimes classed as "bisexual" but I think that word is just an invention. We don't really know what causes homosexuality. Some claim it is that children are imprinted at an early age (psychologically) and some say it is genetic, or at least pre-birth..under the influence of hormones at a certain critical time in the womb.
by Tom 47 is back in his bear COAT on May 8th, 2009
In male fetuses in utero, testosterone begins to influence not only physical development but brain development at an early stage. Without the testosterone "bath" at a certain stage, the brain does not recognise itself as "masculine", even though the body develops as male. Female homosexuality is not as well defined. There are many people who claim to have been born in the "wrong body". In other words, they identify as the opposite gender their bodies display. This is not the same as homosexuality. These people often suffer much in society and privately. In late years, there is surgery and hormone treatments that can give them the body they feel is the right one. It is easier for physically male persons to "transgender" to female than vise versa. These people should not be considered "freaks". They should be accepted as the person they are.
by Tom 47 is back in his bear COAT on May 8th, 2009
Oh, btw, Athreal, those who claim heredity is responsible for most homosexuality say it is inherited from the mother's X chromosome...not from the father. So, a gay father could not sire a gay son. That does not mean the mother is gay...She probably is not. She just passes the tendency to her son.
by Tom 47 is back in his bear COAT on May 8th, 2009
And...your description in no way says that your brother is gay, and I don't know what facts you have that his friend is gay, either. You just say, "I know". What do you know?
by Tom 47 is back in his bear COAT on May 8th, 2009
Most people don't know who is responsible for passing on the "gay gene" If the father is having issues it is most likely that he feels he has 'passed on' the gay. Its his psychology that I was attempting to decipher for the poster.
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What people FEEL doesn't mean it is factual its a feeling and the feelings the father may be having have impact on how this will play out for these kids.
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90% of people are bisexual - being something like 90% straight with a 10% leaning toward the other end. They IDENTIFY as being straight never acting on it. You go on to demonstrate my point.
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Your lack of acceptance of bisexual as a term has blinded you. Sorry.
by Athrael on May 8th, 2009
I do not know if that last is directed at me or the OP.
I know my brother is gay - its just something you can pick up. I knew before he knew. He 'came out' to me later down the road. The same situation is most likely or has by the comments unfolded her, the elder knew on a gut level, the younger "came out". This happens a lot in families were one or more of the kids is gay/bi - the kids 'know' without knowing why they know so its no real 'surprise' when the person comes out to them.
by Athrael on May 8th, 2009
(lol) No, Athrael, you are inventing reality. Do you consider yourself "bi"? Do you need to believe everyone else is also? Many homosexuals seem to need to believe there are much more like them "out there". They do not seem to be able to comprehend the fact that 97% of males in the population consider having "sex" with them similar to having sex with a pig. The chemistry is just not there. They even eagerly point to guys in sports or anywhere giving each other hugs or pats on the behind after a touchdown as "proof"..(lol!). That is so pathetic! That means nothing. Guys do this all the time in those situations, just like gals hug each other all the time. This is not sexual. It is just human affection and contact.
by Tom 47 is back in his bear COAT on May 8th, 2009
I don't know what books or "studies" you have been reading, but you are taking them as fact without much study or comparison with other studies.
by Tom 47 is back in his bear COAT on May 8th, 2009
well we told dad he wanted to get over with and right know all u hear out of that room is yelling my sis tried to get in but the doors locked so he going to have to fight this battle on his own for once
by daniel on May 8th, 2009