by einalem on February 1st, 2007

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I believe that same sex couples should be allowed to adopt. What about you? And why?

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by Penny The Wise on February 6th, 2007
Absolutely. I also believe in Gay Marriage, but that is another thread. For the same reasons as the Gay Marriage, I feel that any stable couple should be allowed to adopt, whether they be 2 men, 2 women or a man and and a woman. If they are financially responsible, and seem in the agency's eyes to be upright people to have a child, so be it.
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- And if I were king, bigots and homophobes would be publicly beheaded after they were tortured for days on end.
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  by Penny The Wise on January 14th, 2008
- lol. ouuchhh. nice one, made me smile :)
  
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  by you go girl. lol. on January 18th, 2008
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by onzanzabarsands on February 1st, 2007
I don't see how any of their sex life has to do with wanting to become a parent. They too had parents, and just because they choose a different lifestyle should not make them any worse of a parental unit. In today's society there should be no qualms about who is a justified couple. There are many cases where "unfit" parents are allowed to abuse their children when there are loving homes from same sex couples who would not do this.
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- I wholeheartedly agree with you. Well said.
  
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by kedar on April 10th, 2009
Gay couples should definitely be allowed to adopt, Sex has nothing do with values like honesty, honor, love, respect, joy -- Why shouldn't gay people be allowed to adopt? If someone is able and willing to provide parenting to a child in need, the sexuality of that person isn't even relevant. There are plenty of screwed up straight parents in this world. Give a person who wants to do it a chance.
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by Singingismystyle on May 14th, 2007
I don't agree. Because we all came from a man and women, and it should be left that way. I don't mean to sound critical, but this is the way I feel.
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- So single mothers should have their children ripped from them?
  
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  by eternal0void on May 15th, 2007
- I never said that. If your a single mother with children already, then of course that would be your choice to have what ever partner you choose in your life. I just don't agree with same sex couples.
  
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  by Singingismystyle on May 16th, 2007
- You don't sound critical, just narrow-minded and self-righteous. This is the way I feel.
  
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  by dirk dirk on January 18th, 2008
- Well I'm glad you understand me dirk dirk. Yes I am totally against lesbianism, and gayism; whatever you want to call it. I love these people, and definetly am not going to be critical. I am definetly not supportive of same sex couple having children together; to me it's a bad example for children. I believe that God blessed us with are children, and it is only up to us to show them what the right way is.
  We have to live with our own concience, and that's all I have to say.
  
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  by Singingismystyle on January 18th, 2008
- So lesbian mothers who choose to raise their own children with the help of their lesbian lovers should have their children ripped from them?
  
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  by eternal0void on January 20th, 2008
- I agree with eternal0void :)
  
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by Flapdoodle on February 6th, 2007
No they shouldn't be, I can't imagine the bullying and embarrassment the child will have to go through in school... ooo plz dont do it to that kid...
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- Most kids are bullied in school for some reason or another anyway. Refusing to allow a person to adopt a child because of how that child *might* be treated is ludicrous.
  
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  by Anonymous on February 6th, 2007
- The kid wont be able to face the world and will feel so isolated especially if he is straight.
  
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  by Flapdoodle on February 6th, 2007
- This is nonsense. Some kids made fun of me because I had red hair. Other kids got made fun of because of their last name. All kids have to go through the trauma of childhood and learn how to stand up for themselves, the notion that they won't be able to face the world because of this is absurd -- it's just part of becoming an adult.
  
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  by Stableboy on February 6th, 2007
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by Anonymous on April 8th, 2007
of course they should, anyone genuinely willing to home a child and devote their efforts to love of that child should never be denied the right to adoption. sex has nothing to do with it, just another way for homophobes to exercise their hate of gays. all you who think that the child will get bullied and thats why they shouldn't be adopted by gays need to wise up and stand up for the homosexual community
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by e-shroom on February 5th, 2007
Here in the UK same sex couples are allowed to adopt! I have gay friends and family even a God-parent, and while I'm sure they would make great parents, I still believe that for a balanced upbringing children need steady male and female role models. But that's not to say same sex couples can't achieve this.
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by 8 Jan 2004-10 Dec 2009 on February 2nd, 2007
Yes. Any couple that wants to adopt must really want a child and that is a better house to be in than one where the parents merely tolerate your existence because it isn't your fault the condom broke.
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by Little big mouth on February 5th, 2008
You're smart. I say they should be able to too
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by dirk dirk on January 18th, 2008
Of course same sex couples have the right to adopt. All of the rights granted to mixed sex couples should be guaranteed to same sex couples, and if there are children who need adoptive parents, all couples should be evaluated on the same issues only.
I am tired of narrow-minded, misinformed ignorance that people rely on when they want to discriminate.
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by Mini_kilt on May 14th, 2007
THe thing I find funny about this is adoption is not the only way for a same sex couple to have children, but it is one that sparks debate because it's the closest thing people feel they can control.

I know Lesbian couples that have had children via In vitro fertilisation, and gay couples that have had a serogate mother sign away parental rights. There is no legal debate over this, nobody can do anything about these meathods of gays starting a family and nobody seems to be trying either. So why get all up in knots about adoption? You can't control how people will start families, if they truly want to, they just might find away. Of course, adoption isn't as costly as other meathods and have a much higher success rate, so are we only to allow rich gay couples to start families?

Why would we want to keep babies/children that need loving families out of stable homes? Are we so selfish that we think children should go unloved rather then be loved by somebody unlike us?
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by Im Alec has abandoned this account on February 6th, 2007
Yes, absolutely. Of course, in an ideal world, it might be true that a child benefits most from having a role model of each sex. But this is way down in the small change, as far as I am concerned. One loving parent is better than no loving parents (i.e. the foster home, where they stay of not adopted). Two loving parents, of whatever sex, are better than one loving parent. Two very loving parents of the same sex are better than two fairly loving parents of opposite sexes. The opportunity of getting a child into a stable household is so valuable that the tiny, one in a million, possible disadvantage of not having an appropriate same sex role model as parent should be completely ignored.
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by sloroller on February 6th, 2007
Sure...why not..and while we're at it, let's allow 12 year olds to vote, they're loving decent human beings... and let's just make education optional, schooling is such an old fashioned idea, and there's this cousin I've been dying to ask out...
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- This strikes me as a set of total non-sequiturs. Do you actually have a point to make, or are you just loosing off at random.
  
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  by Im Alec has abandoned this account on February 6th, 2007
- Simply that same sex marriage makes as much sense to me as the above ridiculous scenarios.
  There seems to be a gradual erosion of society and in my opinion, some things are the way they are for a reason.
  
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  by sloroller on February 6th, 2007
- Then you have to explain *why* they don't make sense. They make sens to a lot of people. Not allowing 12 year olds to vote, and sending them to school, make a lot more sense to the average reader. If your religion says it is wrong, it doesn't "make sense", it is a religious rule with no meaning to other religions. I have given my own answer to the question with my reasons why such adoption makes sense *to me*. It may not make sens to you, but that requires explaining not stating.
  
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  by Im Alec has abandoned this account on February 6th, 2007
- Your answer is just a statement of your beliefs..."of getting a child into a stable household is so valuable that..." well said but a statement.
  Why is it valuable? You want an explanation...men and women are designed (I'm talking biology, not religion) to produce children, which logically should lead to them raising them, if possible.
  
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  by sloroller on February 6th, 2007
- Try this Anonymous: get some experience with abused and neglected children first -- kids who are in group homes and have little or no chance of being adopted. Then ask "wouldn't they be better off with two mommies or two daddies?" I promise you, if you get to know these kids as I have, the answer is a slam-dunk YES. But to do this, you'll have to get out of your ivory tower and enter the real world, where people are in pain and not every family will fit your neat little picture of perfection.
  
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  by Stableboy on February 6th, 2007
- You assume a lot. I'm trying to raise my own two children, not in an ivory tower and there is a great deal of pain and suffering. I am expressing my frustration at how bit by bit, values are being chipped away in our society. Perhaps the abused and neglected children are a symptom of this... I wish it wasn't the case....thanks for your reply.
  
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  by sloroller on February 6th, 2007
- What you're calling values, I would call beliefs. Your beliefs are actually threatening your values: the VALUE would be "each child having the best home we can provide for it". The BELIEF is "homosexuality is wrong". Beliefs live in ivory towers. Values live in love, care, and compassion for others. Caring for your own children is fine and important, but if you're not caring for these other children you're still in a little tower of your own family.
  
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  by Stableboy on February 6th, 2007
- The question originally was do you think same sex couples should be allowed to adopt. My answer is no.
  Because I VALUE a mother's ability to nurture , and I VALUE a father figure as a strong loving provider for the family. I didn't mention homosexuality, and the fact that I have a family of my own to care for does not imply that I don't care for the unfortunate ones that don't have a family.
  
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  by sloroller on February 6th, 2007
- Yes, and there's nothing wrong with valuing mothers and fathers for their contribution. But if there's no traditional family to adopt the child, a same-sex family is still a HUGE improvement over a group home. And a single parent would also be a HUGE improvement. Therefore, your aversion to same-sex couples is suppressing the obvious value of having the best possible home for the child. The fact that you're not coming right out and saying that doesn't change the fact that it's implicit in your posting. You've equated same-sex parents with 12-year-olds voting and dating your cousin. Clearly there's a sarcastic statement which reveals your true view in the matter, nobody has to be a rocket scientist to figure out that you have a belief about gay couples which is very negative. Give us a little credit, you're the one who switched on the sarcasm and switched OFF the caring for neglected children.
  
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  by Stableboy on February 6th, 2007
- Call me old fashioned. It was a poor choice of examples in my original answer. I obviously have not had the first hand experiences you have had with neglected children.
  
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  by sloroller on February 6th, 2007
- I'm not interested in calling you old fashioned or any other name. I'm interested in tolerance and in caring for those who can't care for themselves. That means tolerance of those who aren't like us (gay couples), and care for children in this case. The kind of beliefs you're clinging to about gays aren't just old fashioned and quaint, they're actively hostile to the well being and rights of others you haven't even met. My "sermon" would be to start questioning those beliefs, because as I stated earlier, they're actually undermining the values that you hold. I believe you when you talk about what you value, I just think you don't see the harm done by your beliefs. That's a realization that only comes in "the real world", i.e. working with the people your beliefs affect -- gays and children.
  
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  by Stableboy on February 6th, 2007
- Just to chip in here, in England it's perfectly legal and acceptable to marry a cousin.
  
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by Phrenia on February 5th, 2007
Love is love and parents are parents. I think that some people are too anal retentive about this and that they, wanting equal rights, are hypocritical not to grant other's their own wish.
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by redcatt63 is around here somewhere...... on December 28th, 2007
All children deserve to be brought up in a safe, loving home. I have a lot of gay and lesbian friends who have children. They are actually biological, not adopted (although the non-biological parent has adopted their partner's child). They are happy, healthy, well-adjusted children.
Sexual orientation is something that is genetically hard-wired. You can't "teach" a child to be gay. They either will be, or they won't. And, as a lot of people seem to forget, it's straight people that keep having all the gay children! I was raised by straight parents. I never knew anyone gay until long after I realized I was.
I have lots of straight friends. I don't "hate" straight people as some people believe. However, there are a lot of straight people who have no business having children in the first place. What could possibly be wrong with gays raising children if they are able to provide for them and love them just as much as any straight couple could?
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- tsk, tsk....looks like my troll is at work again.
  
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by Miz Zila on December 28th, 2007
I say yes and no. Right now I think they are allowing them to adopt children. I feel it they can provide a stable and safe environment for children then why not. They can do just as well as raising children as a straight couple. Then again in some cases it does confuse children but it most it doesn't. That would be the only problem I would have.
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- How would it confuse children? They would be raised knowing about both gay and straight parents.
  
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  by I Are Yogi Bear on August 30th, 2008
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by jenniferx on February 6th, 2007
yes i do. why shouldn't they, are people afraid the child will turn out gay or something.
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by ILoveLois on April 11th, 2009
No, I don't think they should. This isn't some anti-gay/lesbian thing, but men and women are different in many ways, and for a child to have a balanced upbringing I believe that he/she should be exposed to both sexes equally, as in a conventional family.
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- There are numerous reliable sources you can read that explore your very statement. May I suggest you read some BEFORE trying to formulate theories?
  
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  by Nosey-Steve on April 11th, 2009
- I was voicing an opinion, not formulating a theory.
  
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by Annuska on January 25th, 2008
I agree, as a lesbain myself i would like to think that i would be able to if i wanted to have my own family. The only thing that concerns me is how the child would deal with it, the i suppose if they know no different , and all kids get bullied for something dont they, I feel that as long as the child has some influence from both sexes then they will be perfectly well roundd open minded human beingas.
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by Nosey-Steve on April 11th, 2009
I belive that we should be able to adopt! If there are parents who are stable and able to care for a child --then adtoption shouldnt even be an issue!! My partner and I are planning to adopt in a few years, and I know that we will be able to care for a child like any hetrosexual couple. Some say that it will 'harm' the child to grow up in a homosexual enviornment, bull crap! The same situations of abuse and divorce, fighting and whatever things that a family brings can happen just as much in a heterosexual household. It's really no different, just two moms, or two dads. Love is what makes a family, nurishment and kindness. Teaching children how to be wonderful people in our socitey is what we need. It shoud not depend on a parents sexual orientation one bit. However, it does. I'm a queer who wants to play house :)
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