• LoL what Christ taught was pure and simple which is love and forgiveness.
  • No, he did not, but the old testement is pretty violent with some pretty archane, violent rules.
  • Christ was not always a nice, non-violent guy. He killed a tree just because it didn't have any fruit on it for him to eat. Poor tree. (ToT)
  • christ did make it clear he was reserving his violence for a later date and he had no reason to teach violence because the old testament pretty much had that covered already.
  • If Christianity didn't teach violence, why did the Christians destroy the native populations while conquering the North and South American continents with violence?
  • Not so much. He informed his followers that his kingdom was not of this world, and therefore needs not the methods of this world to defend or expand it (contrary to popular belief).
  • The Koran was revealed many years after the Bible was. Jesus was already born, and put to death, by the time Muhammad began preaching. Most of the Bible's examples of violence occur before the birth of Jesus, making it less likely that Jesus would mention them as often. Muhammad, on the other hand, began preaching after Jesus was long gone from the Earth. He was in agreement to many of the principles and teachings of the Christian and Jewish religions, although he believed that these religions had deviated from the original scriptures and commandments (according to Muhammad, Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God). One of the things that he did agree with was the belief that God was a fair and compassionate God. This did not, however, mean that he was not violent at times. Because of this, Muhammad did preach about violence, much in the same way violence was taught in the Old Testament of the Bible (before Jesus' time). . Although all of these Books contain many examples of violence, I beleive that Muhammad may have preached more about it. But, if you believe that Jesus and God are the same person, they are probably on a par with each other.
  • Yes, Yeshua's teachings contained violence. Unlike Mohammed, Yeshua of Nazareth was never a military general. In general, His teachings are much less violent than any other teachings in any Abrahamic tradition. However, that is not to say that He didn't have some violent teachings. He mostly sticks to Yahweh or Himself as the perpetuator of the violence (He seems to have a real thing for weeping and gnashing of teeth), though, and does not directly exhort His followers to violence upon others. Here are some examples of violence in the teachings of Yeshua of Nazareth (quotes restricted to texts in the Bible, and aren't inclusive of extra Biblical Gospels, and also exclude references to violence by Yeshua in other New Testament verses, including in Revelations where Yeshua will come back and "will kill her children with death", etc): Matthew 8:10-12, "When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel. And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 8:28-32, "And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way. And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding. So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters." Matthew 11:21-24, "Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you. And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee." Yeshua (or Yahweh) will destroy whole cities, just as happened in Sodom. Matthew 13:41-42, "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 13:49-50, "So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 18:8-9, "Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire." Matthew 24:36-42, "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come." (Clear reference to Noah, and please note that Yeshua has not one single problem with Yahweh/Himself killing all humans - and even innocent animals - during that violent fiasco.) Matthew 24:50-51, "The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Told you Yeshua had a real thing for weeping and gnashing of teeth.) Mark 4:10-12, "And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them." (Yeshua deliberately speaks in parables so that "those without" won't be converted, and their sins forgiven. IE: they will go to Hell. I guess if He speaks clearly, everyone might get converted and He won't get His "weeping and gnashing of teeth".) Mark 5:12-13 reiterates the pig slaughter. Mark 6:11 reiterates that any city which rejects Him will be destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 7:9-13, "And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye." Yeshua is castigating the Jews for failing to kill disobedient children as required by Mosaic Law, and calls this Law the "word of God". Mark 8:35, "For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it." (If you reject Yeshua to save your life, He - or Yahweh - will kill you, and you will burn for eternity in Hell.) Mark 8:38, "Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." If you are ashamed of Yeshua, He will be ashamed of you. No salvation. Straight to Hell without collecting $200. Mark 9:43-49 reiterates plucking out and chopping off what offends you. Luke 3:9, "And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." (A parable equating the trees to humans.) Luke 3:17 "Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable." Yeshua will burn the unsaved with an unquenchable fire. Luke 8:27-37 reiterates the pig slaughter. Given the number of times this incident is recorded, it was considered by Yeshua's followers to be one of the greater deeds of Yeshua. Luke 10:10-15 reiterates that any city which rejects Him will be destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah. Luke 12:5-7, "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him...But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows." Yeshua says that your relationship with the Father should be based on fear of His ability to kill you and send you to Hell for eternity. He doesn't say a word about love. But take hope in the fact that the Father values you more than many sparrows. Luke 12:8-9, "Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God." People who don't believe in Yeshua will be denied before Yahweh, and sent to eternal torture in Hell. Luke 12:46-47, "The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes." The Lord (Yeshua, Yahweh, or both) is like a slave owner who beats his slaves with many stripes. Luke 12:48, "But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." But if you didn't know what the instructions were, your number of stripes will be reduced. Luke 13:3, "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." If you don't repent, you will perish. John 3:36, "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." Nonbelievers will feel the Wrath of God. I put this at the end, because this is for those of you who would say "but Yeshua only says these things about sinners". No. If you believe in Yeshua and accept the Holy Spirit, you will be forgiven and saved no matter what you do (even Hitler). However, if you don't believe in Yeshua and accept the Holy Spirit, you will go to Hell, no matter how good a person you are. Thus, "evil" and "chaff" (and the other descriptions above) merely mean "those who do not worship Yahweh and accept Yeshua and the Holy Spirit". That is the only "evil" for which you will go to Hell. Luke 12:10, "And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven." John 3:18, "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
  • Show me an example of where Muhammad taught violence.
    • Moongrim
      Q'uran sura 4:74 - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.
  • I don't want to address the subject of old testamentary or qur'an violence here, and how it could be interpreted. I'll just present the ethical teaching of Christ, from an atheistic perspective. "Jesus is reported to have believed and taught that the world as people then knew it was coming to an end; he was an apocalyptic preacher." "Given that he thought the world was ending, the Day of Judgement was coming when all would be sorted into the saved and the damned, going to Heaven or Hell respectively (Matt. 25:31-46), it makes perfect sense that his ethics were utterly unworldly, radically unworldly. He put no value on earthly wealth, fame, power, or family. He urged his followers to forsake all of these to focus entirely on purifying their own character, doing good works, and spreading the gospel. You are not seeking to have a pleasant or successful life on Earth, you are applying to get into Heaven when the Earth is destroyed." "Summing up so far: Abandon all your Earthly ambitions. Forsake your Earthly family and give your loyalty to God and your fellow believers. Sell everything you own and use the money to do good works. Avoid getting any Earthly reward for your good works. Follow the Mosaic Law, both the letter and the spirit of it. Abstain from all sin, inside and out; abstain from covetousness, abstain from anger, abstain from lust. Do WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO to abstain from lust. Practice strict nonviolent pacifism; do not resist evil, do not strike back, do good to those who hate you. Practice mercy and forgiveness and peacemaking. Do not judge others, that is not your job, Judgement Day will come soon enough. Seek to purify your own character, strive to "be perfect, even as your father in Heaven is perfect." " "So far I have been describing the ethical teachings of the Jesus described in the first three gospels, Matthew, Mark, and Luke. The Jesus described in the gospel of John is very different." "Remember that in each of the first three gospels there is an apocalyptic chapter, where Jesus warns of the end of the world, with disasters and wars and mass death and turmoil, followed by Judgement Day, coming soon. There is no apocalyptic chapter in John. At the end of John he speaks of his own future "coming", apparently the "second coming", but gives no apocalyptic warnings or descriptions. There is no hint that the second coming will be anytime soon. I've read that Bible scholars generally agree that Mark was the earliest gospel written, Matthew and Luke were based partly on Mark and partly on other material, and John was the last one written, no earlier than 100 AD. If you go through the gospel of John and collect only the ethical teachings, skipping everything else, you will find that there are very few. The Jesus described in John never says to help the poor, much less does he say anything about selling your possessions. The only time he mentions the poor, he says "the poor you always have with you." He never says to follow the Mosaic law, never says to abstain from all sin and be perfect, never says to cut off body parts that tempt you to sin. He never says to be humble." "What DOES he say? He says three things over and over. "Believe in me", he who believes will get into heaven. "Eat my body and blood", those who take communion will have eternal life. And "Obey me, keep my commandments." Those who do not believe and do not obey are condemned to Hell. But there are only two commandments mentioned in the entire book. He does say to practice forgiveness; In chapter 8 there is the story of the woman caught in adultery, and Jesus says "let him who is without sin cast the first stone." Other than that, the only commandment he gives is to "love one another". In other words, love other Christians. John 13: 34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." In the first three gospels he was described as saying that to love those who loved you was nothing remarkable, gained you no real credit; even the gentiles, even the tax collectors do the same. There, he said to go beyond this and love your enemies. In John, there is no word about loving your enemies. That is all: "believe in me", "eat my body and blood", and "love one another". Do that and you get into Heaven. The Jesus described in John is not an ethical teacher, he is a sacrificial lamb. We are not saved by his teachings, we are saved by his blood. We don't have to renounce anything of our Earthly life, all we have to do is believe, take communion, and be nice to other believers. There is nothing hard in the gospel of John; the gate is wide and the way is easy. Personally, I think that the gospel of John was written by church leaders who found the existing gospels to be inconvenient. It was at least 70 years after the time of Jesus, and the apocalypse had not come; it had become an embarrassment. They wanted to have large congregations, they wanted a gospel that would have mass appeal. So they did an apocalidectomy. They took out the apocalyptic prophecies, then had to take out most of the ethics also, because the ethics make no sense without the apocalypse." Source and further information:
  • bible don't teach violence.(people?)sexlover?.yes mohammad s teaches are differ than Jesus. 1-jesus said that forgive but mohammad said criminals should be punish but according his bad work. 2-mohammad said your best work is to support week person.if any powerful man doing wrong with week person if you will help him than you will get reward.
  • No He didn't.
    • Moongrim
      Yes, he did.
  • 3-17-2017 It is not reliable to let people tell you what the bible says. Many people will make up stuff because they don't know what it says, and many will make up stuff because they wish it would not say what it says. You just have to read it for yourself. Read a chapter of Proverbs every day. Proverbs has 31 chapters so you can keep your place by just looking at a calendar. There is no religion or nothing in Proverbs and you don't have to believe anything. Just read to find wisdom. When you are comfortable with that, then read the bible from Romans to 2 Thessalonians over and over until you start to remember what it says. That is the part that applies to Christians. Here is a book to help you to understand the bible. It's a free download and you can get a hard copy at any bible book store. "How To Enjoy The Bible"
  • Jesus as well as the Lord God taught love and to love everyone. Many believe the Old Testament is violent. There was violence when the Hebrews were in battle with those kingdoms around them. There were times when the Lord God required to kill all males and all females that had layed with a man but to save those females who were virgin. research into this shows the reason for killing the males and females who had had sex was because there were Ananoci (spelled incorrect) who were the fallen angels who had married and had children. They were dangerous and the Lord God wanted them removed. Those females including young girls were divided among the men who fought in the Battles. They could marry them, or make them slaves, or what ever they desired. The Lord God never does anything without a specific reason.
  • In the bible according those chapters and verses 1 John 4 9-11, Ephesians 2: 4-5. We can see the love of God but not violence. 1 John 4 9 This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. 10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 11 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. Ephesians 2 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions
    • Moongrim
      "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34

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