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You're reading Seal hunting, can someone explain how it's honestly a sport?
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It's not a sport, you're right. In most cases it's a matter of survival for northern peoples. They don't consider being able to get their next meal a sport.
by scubabob on March 16th, 2007
Abortion isn't a sport either
but women still do it as a matter of convenience!
by koldkanuck on December 9th, 2007
sorry posted to the wrong person it was meant for gonzo
by koldkanuck on December 9th, 2007
In most cases it is not a matter of survival at all. In most cases baby seals are clubbed to death for their fur to sell. Not shot, but clubbed to death just for 'fun'.
by Gonzo on December 10th, 2007
Killing baby seals has been against the law for 25 years. Using a club on adult seals is actually pretty rare and only used if the rifle shot has been found not to have killed them outright. As for survival. For many small communities, it actually is a method of survival and hunting seals for the purpose of food, for the Innu people, is legal. This is how they've existed for thousands of years. No taking of seals is done "for fun". It's either an economic activity or one of needing a source of food. What IS done for fun, are American hunters going after Polar Bears.
by scubabob on December 10th, 2007
Actually I shouldn't single out American hunters, as they can come from anywhere, but they seem to be of the majority.
by scubabob on December 10th, 2007
It might be against the law in the States, but it's still happening. And can you explain what exactly an 'economic activity' is? You mean humans interfering with the foodchain?
by Gonzo on December 10th, 2007
I have no idea about American laws regarding whatever their seal populations are. I am speaking about our Canadian seal hunting, both by the Innu and by commercial hunters. An economic activity is just that. A hunt that's purpose is to make an income. As for interfering with the food chain, stop the Bear's decline and you'll be helping the seals. Stop over fishing off the 200 km limit and you'll be helping the seals. Stop getting in your SUV,thereby reducing global warming and you'll be helping the bears and the seals. Start understanding the ecology of the North and you'll be helping everyone. Should no seal hunting take place, at the moment, you'll actually be killing more seals than you'll save. I'll let you see if you can figure out why, before I explain it.
by scubabob on December 11th, 2007
I think if humans were to leave nature alone, everything would balance itself out. Killing off one thing is not going to help. If humans killed nothing off and left nature to it's own devices, Im sure there would not be too many bears or too many seals or too many anything. It's a vicious circle, humans decide they've gotta kill all the bears, and then they moan about there being too many seals, so they decide to kill all the seals and their left with too many bears and so on. So interfering with nature is not the answer.
by Gonzo on December 11th, 2007
And being British, im not talking about either America or Canada, im talking about humans feeling the need to kill things for whatever the reason. Let's face it, if we didnt kill anything, there wouldnt be the problem of over or under population. Well, there would, but there would be no need for human interference because things would balance themselves out. I'll see if you can figure that out without me having to explain it.
by Gonzo on December 11th, 2007
" If humans killed nothing off and left nature to it's own devices, Im sure there would not be too many bears or too many seals or too many anything. "
Ok, looks like I need to do the explaining thing.
It's not currently a case of humans killing off the polar bears that's an issue regarding the seals ( although with the bear hunt,it's done in sport). It's actually global warming that's doing that far faster. The bears are starving. They can't get to the seals anymore. No ice. This has led to the seal population actually INCREASING. There's an issue though. Fine and dandy that there are more seals, just how do you propose to feed them now? The fish stocks they used to rely on, were overfished by European and Japanese factory ships. Now those seals get to be born and through starvation, get diseased, pass illness' on to healthy populations and ALL die a slow lingering death. Everything then loses.
by scubabob on December 11th, 2007
Exactly my point. If it weren't for humans (global warming, over fishing etc) then we would have a balanced food chain, no?
by Gonzo on December 11th, 2007
So, instead of all those species dying off at the same time, there's a controlled hunt of the seal population. This has already been proven to work. Fish stocks are starting to bounce back a bit ( there has been a moratorium on the fishing). The seals are soon going to have a food source that will sustain their growing population. The problem is, Polar bears, that take more seals than any human hunt, AREN'T bouncing back. Until you manage to get those greenhouse gasses in check, you're going to have an imbalance. What do you propose to do? We organize a a Sport Utility Vehicle hunt? We go to China and blow up a few coal burning power plants? Do you understand that it's not just a hunting thing here? With that, I'm unsubscribing from this thread.
by scubabob on December 11th, 2007
Whatever, man. I never said this was purely a hunting thing. I said it was a human thing.
by Gonzo on December 11th, 2007
stick around Scubabob your opinion has value, unlike some here!
by koldkanuck on December 11th, 2007
All he's doing is stating the facts. Im saying that if we didnt interfer, things wouldnt be unbalanced, whether that be global warming or hunting for whatever reason. The only reason he left is because he knows that's the truth.
by Gonzo on December 11th, 2007
Gonzo we weren't here when the most successful animal life form expired.Dinosaurs
The Ice Age human lived in Europe during the Ice Age and went extinct approximately 35,000 years ago when the last continental glaciers retreated,
I guess we are to blame for that too!
The dinosaurs dominated the Earth for over 165 million years, but mysteriously went extinct 65 million years ago.
I guess they were overhunted huh?
by koldkanuck on December 11th, 2007
Dont be a sarcastic bastard and see if you can come up with a valid argument, huh?
by Gonzo on December 11th, 2007
the answer was ten times more valid than the question caulk sucker.
typical can't reply start calling names fuque u!
by koldkanuck on December 11th, 2007