"The Lord was grieved that he had made man on the Earth, and his heart was filled with pain. So I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the Earth.." Question: Why did he make them when he already knew they'd be a big failure?

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• In this version He already has the fact. If He is the sole being - knows the question and the answer - then who is He "proving" it for. Surely He does not need to "prove" it to Himself.

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  by Hp-Freeze on January 14th, 2007

• Of course, to Himself and then to us "the pawns".

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  by FineBalance . on January 14th, 2007

• Ok, so one day he was sittin' around his neverland ranch after however many eons or however they measure "outside of time" the whole time....I mean the whole while thinking he was all knowing and all powerful, but then out of nowhere it occurred to him that maybe doesn't and he's compelled to prove the theory. Ok now that part is based on "He said so". And he figured the idea of creating the entire universe for the benefit of us, his pawns, I'm guessing because he wanted conscious intelligent beings who could understand, thereby having credible witness to this proof. I think I'm with you right up until you said to trust you on this. That's where ya lost me. I just don't trust you. I may as well just trust the bible because it says to trust it. we're back to square 1.

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  by hershey_squirter_ on January 14th, 2007

• FB, So, what you're saying here is that god's insecure, and needs constant self assurance?

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  by tripwire on January 14th, 2007

• To all of you, I have added some addition to my original answer as it will not fit and the comments section becomes too big to follow. Please provide your input. Thanks.

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  by FineBalance . on January 14th, 2007

• 4 points

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  by tripwire on January 14th, 2007

• You're saying you don't have the answer to this question, so why post answer? If God knows all then why prove what He already knows?

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  by Farino on January 15th, 2007

• No answer to his question is the answer to his question. Does it make sense now?

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  by FineBalance . on January 15th, 2007

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• 4 points! Good answer!

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  by tripwire on January 14th, 2007

• Comical little rant, true but comical!

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  by Farino on January 15th, 2007

• There are many things wrong with your answer-Eve did not take a bite of the FRUIT, she gave it to Adam. It was not an apple-no where in the Holy Bible does it say apple-it says fruit. Plus many more, but your mind is already made up and most people know my take on how much I love my Abba Father in Heaven and believe in His word-the Holy Bible. <:))))<><

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  by sleeppro on April 11th, 2007

• God did not say He would never destroy the earth again. He said He would never use WATER to destroy the earth again. At the end of time, He will use fire.

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  by mateosbaby on April 19th, 2007

• I don't think the type of fruit was very important to this discussion, and you missed the main idea of the argument, sleeppro. Good rant, hershey.

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  by Fiddle Playing Creole Bastard on May 30th, 2009

• Haha i like your answer ++

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  by DannysUlto on May 30th, 2009

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• Hey I'm not going to bust your chops, atleast I understand yours for the most part. I guess I kinda understand how he might not know the choices of man, debunking the christian bible in respect to all knowledge including foreknowledge, if you follow a different faith, which it looks like you said that. But He's still awfully clever regardless, completely out of our league in the smarts department. He did create the universe and everything afterall. If he designed us and every aspect of us presumably in his likeness, at the very least we seem to share consciousness as a trait, and from what I've read, awfully similar consciousness. He seems to be surprisingly human like, for example he's very jealous and greedy, loving yet vengeful etc. I'd assume he'd realize during the blueprints phase of our creation he'd be looking at our ingredients and he'd be thinking holy Me! That's an awfully volatile mixture of TNT and poop...looks like something's gonna explode and hit the fan.

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  by hershey_squirter_ on January 14th, 2007

• How does God not know the future when He can predict with 100% accuracy exactly what is going to happen? He predicted through the prophets pointing to Jesus, the Messiah, and every single one came true. Every other prediction not concerning Christ also has come true, 100% reliability.

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  by mateosbaby on April 19th, 2007

• Well mateosbaby that is not entirely true. God predicts the future poorly pretty much right off the bat in Genesis Chapter 3. 1)He has to ask where Adam and Eve are in Eden, 2)He does not know about the eating of the fruit thing till he asks, and 3)Is quite shocked when He finds out. Now my point is that this does not mean he is not all powerful just that he can not see what has not yet happened. However, I do agree with some aspects of what you say. I believe that we are all predictors of the future. When you see a 2 year old with a gallon of milk trying to pour a glass you , from experience, predict it will spill all over. God however has observed every action as it has taken place so He is a very good predictor of what will happen. However, I personally do not believe that means He, has or currently knows for sure the future (refer to answer).

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  by Hp-Freeze on April 20th, 2007

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• 4 points

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  by tripwire on January 14th, 2007

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• Ok, he knew that he knew everything and he knew he wasn't wrong, but hoped he was wrong...or my other option is maybe he's not a know it all, took an educated guess and came up with the extremely complex, ellaborate plan of predicting all knowable knowledge within an evolving universe (To raise the level of difficulty) and then did it just to see how close he was to nailing his prediction. I don't know man, that seems like alot of trouble and self induced stress to put yourself through to try and prove yourself wrong when you know you're right. I mean unless you're really bored and got quite a bit of time to kill. God is starting to sound like an illogical halfwit. So what, he was half right and half wrong? We turned out the way he knew we would but he's pretending like he didn't know, all the while telling us he did, while trying to convince us he didn't, ok now I lost myself. Well I say if he knew we'd be naughty and made us anyway he should take away that hell thing and play fair.

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  by hershey_squirter_ on January 14th, 2007