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Do you want "under God" out of our pledge?

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by Aristocles on Jan 8, 2007 at 5:35 pm Permalink

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I'd like it out, just as it was originally.

Although we're not certain who wrote the pledge, it is believed to have been an American journalist who was a Socialist [edit: it was Francis Bellamy]. The God reference was not included in the original version, as it was added by Congress in an Anti-Communist 1954.

Look it up, maybe someone can give more info.

[edited again to get rid of extraneous parentheses]
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Avatar jerv Sep, 11 2008 at 11:12 PM
Ummm... Local offices? You *really* have no idea where I am, do you? Maybe that is how they do it in the big city, but not here. Now excuse me while I finish laughing my ass off.....
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Define "regular". I suppose you actually can afford to take time off to organize/attend an event? Not me. Not if I want little things like housing and food. Most people I know around here are likewise rather tight.
I suppose that we *could* all lose our jobs and milk the unemployment system upon our return before landing at a minimum wage job at Walmart....
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I tried the letter thing. Again, I guess things are different in Texas. After a few years of form letters and being ignored, I figured that that doesn't work as well as you think.
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I am well aware. Maybe I wuss out because I don't want to be starving and freezing. I'm not willing to martyr myself for a fight like this. Call me what you want. I still eat and live indoors.
At this point, I pretty much leave my opinion in the ballot box at election time as it seems to be the only language they speak besides money.
Avatar jerv Sep, 11 2008 at 11:20 PM
I save my efforts for other fights.
Avatar FallenMan Sep, 12 2008 at 01:45 AM
I dont see why you are jumping on their backs about this. Its a simple conversation, they are stating their opinions about a question that was asked, and an answer that was given. That is not to say that they dedicate their lives to trying to change the pledge, or that they base who they intend to vote for on this issue. Its not even an issue to be debated in politics atm. There are a crap load of problems, but that doesnt mean that we cant discuss the somewhat minor ones.

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by Inspector Javert on Jan 8, 2007 at 5:30 pm Permalink

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Yes, I do. I know trolls will rate me down, but I don't want it in the pledge.

One of the main reasons our country was formed was so we could have seperation of church and state. By having that, I feel you are violating my rights and the rights of any other atheist or anyone who beleives in a different god.

I don't see why I should have to say that I live in a nation under god, when I don't beleive one exists.
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Avatar zee-ster Dec, 04 2008 at 01:45 AM
i have... btw, booze hound -- you make it sound as if america was founded by a single individual. do your research. for example, thomas jefferson was extremely adamant about the government not being involved with god & religion. have you googled what he did with the bible?
Avatar BOOZE HOUND... nothing is nonsence Dec, 07 2008 at 02:04 PM
the point i was makeing was that the first settlers were strict christians.
Avatar Inspector Javert Dec, 13 2008 at 10:51 AM
The point I'm making is that the people who set up the United States Goverment, indeed, the nation, were not.

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by msummers10 on Jan 8, 2007 at 5:25 pm Permalink

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Absolutely not.
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Avatar zee-ster Apr, 05 2007 at 12:11 PM
i disagree, but will give you points for answering. damn opinion questions! (;
Avatar BOOZE HOUND... nothing is nonsence May, 17 2008 at 04:22 PM
i havent dr'd you but why do you think it should be in there
Avatar jerv May, 17 2008 at 06:16 PM
BH - msummers10 and I have crossed paths before and I was struck by how devout he was. Devout Christian, politically conservative.... basically a Southerner, and a surprisingly intelligent and articulate one at that.
Now, being a devout Christian means that God *has* to be everywhere; on our money, in our schools, in our bedrooms....

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by six2dfax on Jan 8, 2007 at 5:40 pm Permalink

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Leave it be. God is a euphemism for higher power, it's use can have numerous connotations.
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Avatar Glenn Blaylock Oct, 24 2008 at 03:57 PM
I would also point out something. Note 23Skidoo was all for a strict interpretation of that one phrase of the Constitution until he found out that it does not mean what he thought it does. Then he wants to reinterpret what it means to suit his purposes. No, I don't agree that the founding fathers wanted the constitution to be "reinterpreted" to fit the times. The men who wrote it were very well educated men who knew the English language much better than most people today know it. They knew exactly what they were saying when they wrote the various clauses of the Constitution and meant for it to be interpreted just that way. This is why they also include a provision for amending the Constitution. If it was determined that some clause of the constitution needed a new meaning then the proper way to deal with that was to pass an amendment that would institute that change. The proper way to change it is not to "reinterpret" it to suit our preferences. When we allow...
Avatar Glenn Blaylock Oct, 24 2008 at 04:06 PM
...the constitution so simply be reinterpreted, then we give a small group of people (judges), who are not accountable to anyone, the power to impose their will on us rather than having that power rest in the hands of the people themselves. This is, in my mind, why they added the Tenth Amendment, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people." The whole purpose of the Bill of Rights is to limit the power of the government. It is not there to limit the power of the people to exercise their religion however or wherever they may wish nor was it meant to keep people's religious view from influencing their decisions when acting as parts of the government.
Avatar Countess Crapula Feb, 25 2009 at 12:30 PM
good answer six. +4

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by FreshApples on Jan 8, 2007 at 5:35 pm Permalink

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no, i am a christian so therefore i believe it. athiests may not agree, but they don't have to
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Avatar LynfromNM May, 17 2008 at 06:58 PM
FreshApples, I appreciate your point and agree with it. But it is not my belief that we are "one nation under God". I don't think a God has anything to do with it. The pledge was originally written without that phrase.
Avatar FreshApples May, 17 2008 at 07:05 PM
maybe they shouldn't of changed it in '54, but they did. THere would be a HUGE upset if they changed it now. Its not worth it at all
Avatar LynfromNM May, 17 2008 at 07:09 PM
There again we agree. There are a lot of other things ahead of this on the list of things to get worked up about!

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by anonymous on Jan 8, 2007 at 5:28 pm Permalink

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No reason to take it out.
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Avatar BOOZE HOUND... nothing is nonsence Sep, 11 2008 at 01:42 PM
yeah i dont understand how a country can have a religion enshrined in the constitution.
Avatar jerv Sep, 11 2008 at 05:29 PM
23 - I was agreeing with you. Sorry about the confusion.
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I can understand how. Sharia law for one...
Avatar BOOZE HOUND... nothing is nonsence Sep, 12 2008 at 09:21 AM
true i dont agree with any form of religious law.

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by guitarman18 on Jan 8, 2007 at 5:34 pm Permalink

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Absolutely not. And it doesnt matter if they take it out or not, I will still say it and mean it in my heart.
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Avatar jerv Mar, 20 2007 at 08:07 PM
Hail Eris!
Avatar zee-ster Apr, 05 2007 at 12:12 PM
i disagree, but will give you points for answering. damn opinion questions! (;
Avatar BOOZE HOUND... nothing is nonsence May, 17 2008 at 04:47 PM
plus points for stating your relgious conviction without being rude or efensive.but i still disagree with you lol.

Answer 8 out of 215

by Nom de guerre on Jan 8, 2007 at 5:50 pm Permalink

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I honestly don't care, one way or another. There are far greater issues to worry about, in my opinion.
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Avatar Andy Ninja Is Wicked Back To Work Jan, 18 2007 at 05:53 PM
Took the words right out of my mouth. Points for you!
Avatar Will Jun, 16 2007 at 08:32 AM
You are 100% right. Lt's also end the flag burning, queer marriage, and water in the toilet debates.
Avatar quicknuss Feb, 25 2009 at 11:18 PM
what if this solved the far greater issues? The United States has been hijacked by the religious zealots just like the republican party was hijacked by the conservative religious zealots.

Answer 9 out of 215

by Midnighttoker on Jan 9, 2007 at 3:12 am Permalink

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i'll still say it.
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Avatar Midnighttoker Apr, 05 2007 at 01:03 PM
no, the right way.
Avatar zee-ster Apr, 05 2007 at 04:02 PM
the right way being the original, without the god part?
Avatar zee-ster Apr, 05 2007 at 04:02 PM
oh... i think you meant you'll still say "under god" either way.

Answer 10 out of 215

by stingiam on Jan 8, 2007 at 5:40 pm Permalink

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we wouldnt have a nation if it were not for GOD..... so there for NOOOOO.....
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Avatar BOOZE HOUND... nothing is nonsence Apr, 19 2009 at 12:22 PM
god does'nt exist
Avatar 23Skidoo Apr, 19 2009 at 12:59 PM
There is that minor detail... but it's never gotten in the way of blind faith.
Avatar BOOZE HOUND... nothing is nonsence Apr, 19 2009 at 01:02 PM
true i've allways said religion is the corner stone of ignorance


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