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by Jodie44 on January 8th, 2007
Yes, if it’s done anonymously, and in this answer, I’ll tell you why. Except where noted, the user names (below) came off the top of my head. Although these events did take place, and the people involved were top-ranked Answerbaggers who are still active members, their real user names are unimportant. Please remember, too, that this is not an official version of what happened - it's simply what I remember.
An Answerbag History
Background info - Unlike now (Answerbag 4.0), all negative ratings required a comment from the rater. Negative ratings were calculated into a user's overall rank, which was represented by a letter grade. If people downrated your answers often, you'd have a ranking of say, B or B+. In other words, Baggers had a valid reason for becoming upset about unfair low ratings - they affected your overall rank, and therefore, reputation. Most "regular" Baggers were ranked as A-, A, or A+. The top Baggers, like Kim Siever and Andersen777, had an A++ rank, no small feat. (Those are simply two examples I remember. They were uninvolved in the Ratings War).
Part One: The Ratings War
In 2005, someone asked a question about the legality of selling pornographic movies that portrayed certain acts of a violent nature.
User Silver answered, "Yes. It's legal. Free speech." User Mars presented an opposing POV. "No, it's not legal, but it is reprehensible." on the same day and the rest, as they say, is history.
Soon after, user Platinum hopped on Silver's side - the "Yes" side, although it might be more accurate to characterize that as "hopping on any side that was anti-Mars". (Apparently, bad blood already existed.) Mars was joined by another planet, Jupiter.
Whether Silver and Platinum disliked Mars and Jupiter because M and J were affiliated with one specific religion, or loathed that particular group because the two planets were members, Platinum began trashing all Mars' answers related to his denominational beliefs. That brought others into the fray, naturally. If you’re unaware of the enmity that's inherent in asking and answering questions in the Religions categories, by all means, take a look. Oh, the irony.
Silver saw Platinum as an ally, since neither liked Mars or Jupiter. Heck, for all I know, S and P flat out disliked astronomy. Each group's members stuck up for each other and argued about anything and everything. Both sides had valid points and argued them well, if not always rationally. Two more top users, sympathetic to the "It's reprehensible" faction, joined the downratings free-for-all, which further polarized the groups' members. Other people got involved on both sides - an unpleasant time for Answerbag and its users.
A series of passionate "debates", I'll euphemistically call them, ensued about First Amendment rights, the Founding Fathers, God, morals, ethics, and movies. As the arguments grew more passionate, the atmosphere got uglier. Since comments were required when leaving negative ratings, the Planets and the Elements knew who'd left negative ratings on which answers. The ill feelings grew sicker -- and out of control.
Keep in mind >> back in those days, Answerbag was a different place. There were only a few AB staff members. They were understandably concerned with the normal, day-to-day site administration rather than acting as the Bag's police force, which hadn't been needed anyway, until then. There were also fewer Answerbaggers than now and the Bag's graphics interface was less crowded. The latter factors made it somewhat easy to spot arguments, so there was a noticeably disruptive atmosphere throughout the Bag. Also, now, with Community Leaders, there's a sense of "anger management" that was more or less absent then. It was the Answerbag version of the Wild West.
I'm not sure how long the Ratings War lasted. I didn't realize what was going on until the gloves were off. By then it was a "duck and cover" situation for everyone not directly involved. Nerves were so raw, you just hoped you didn't inadvertently set someone off.
Part Two: Answerbag 2.0, May 15, 2006
Taking lessons from the Ratings War, AB HQ adopted a "Comments Optional" policy on negative ratings. We'd all seen what happened when people got mad about "Not Useful"s, so predictably, nobody left comments. The Bag was much smaller then, and things moved along at a slower pace, so maybe anonymity was a good solution. It did stop ratings wars.
The only problem >> retaliatory negative ratings had never been a big issue until the Ratings War, and, although dozens of answers were affected, fewer than fifteen people saw "combat". Most people took downratings in stride - for example, I became friends with a couple of users who downrated my answers because they were intelligent people who stated valid reasons for disagreement. I found "Why I downrated your answer" comments to be very helpful - when I'd follow up with an edit, I'd use the comment to write a better answer.
"Comments Optional" was "Not Helpful" because it seemed more like a knee-jerk reaction than a solution -- "CRAP!! Stop ratings wars at all costs!!" At times, "no accountability" seemed as bad as its opposite.
"Anonymous comments required" sounds like a good solution, imho. People are more interested in why the answer was slammed than in who slammed it. Even when I'd like to know the downrater's ID, it's to get an idea about why. "Ohhhhhhh. So that’s who dinged. OK, that explains it - he never likes anything."
I've seen so many ridiculous ratings on opinion or poll type answers, it's become almost funny. I usually either edit my answer so that the downrater feels downright silly if he re-reads it, or just ignore the low rating. What else can you do?
To read more Answerbag history, go here:
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/41395
I hope this helps.
by zazzy_one on January 8th, 2007
Here's the thing.
1) Trolls are not as powerful as all the talk that goes on about them. No one can rate any one person eternally (either up or down.) You hit a cap. Trolls are human beings. They are the same human beings you meet in life who: cut in line, don't return their library books on time, bounce checks so your account is off. Sometimes in the real world and here, a troll is truly evil. But that is rare. In general, they are a minor hinderance and should be perceived as such, especially since this isn't even the real world. Most people you meet, here and in the real world, are honorable. The assholes do not outweigh the good people, and in the end, one's ratings are not a result of anything other than the true value of questions/ answers ( "-") LESS the trolls which we are all subject to. I.e., we are all subject to them so their power is zero.
2) Some questions/ answers are nonsensical, retarded, inflammatory, degrading, etc. One rates them down not because one is a troll, but because one has good sense. It serves this site to do so. All the touchy-feely, don't rate people down under any circumstances stuff doesn't do the site any good. For some of the people on this site, commenting about your negative entry is just a way for the people who are not meaningful site participants to track you down and rate you down for no good reason except to vent their spleens. Trust me: been there.
3) This is an artificial world. It is given that we are interested in our ratings or we wouldn't be playing this "game." People are interested and sometimes over-interested in ratings and the world becomes LESS real and more artificial because of that factor. For instance, the political game which leads to people obtaining high points, also decreases the likelihood that at all times, everyone really says what they mean 100%, i.e. the "truth" according to them. If everyone gave the true answer that came to their mind at all times, we'd all be slugging at negative percentages. But that is an immitation of real life and the real world, so in some ways, it is okay. Both in the "real" world and here, people do not say everything that pops into their mind. Such would not be societally correct. A person is either a functional member of society, and curbs their id-brain from saying everything that pops into our minds; or we are psychopaths and believe that we are the center of the world, and if we believe it, then it is true.
4) So, a virtuous person in this "world" walks a thin line, between being helpful/ truthful and not invoking the ire of other AB'ers. Presumably such a person sometimes goes out on a limb, even when they know it is going to make some folks angry (you can't please everyone all the time, and bygum, in my case, this issue is gay rights. I am going to endorse it every time even though I KNOW it brings the trolls out); and sometimes such a person will dodge involvement with a question that they have strong feelings about but which they know will bring attacks from trolls or even right-thinking people (again, you can't please everyone all the time, and you might have experience knowing, for instance, that if you answer a religious question, no matter what, you will get negative ratings since someone is almost always on the opposite side.)
5) If no one EVER gave negative ratings for anything...what would be the value of the site? If you don't "vote," then what is the point? Sometimes you just have to say: I feel so strongly about this that I can't just walk away and not rate it at all. And of course, if you leave your mark on that answer, by commenting, on an answer again...that tells you IN THE POSTING ITSELF, THAT THE PERSON IS...UM...SLIGHTLY "OFF," then you are asking for that person to go off on your ratings.
6) Although I have heard much talk about not rating anyone down without an explanation, I do not think that I have ever seen any such thing occur, yet...I know that people have rated others down. So, I think in some respects, this is not really truth-telling, but it is built into the culture here to say things like that. Because of the strong site culture, the lip service that is given to rating down only if you insert comments, I have done so several times recently. Each time I got a flurry of trollish-type neg ratings. By this I mean that my neg ratings were disproportionate to my normal. Also the neg ratings were on things like, "what celebrity did you have a crush on as a child?" Presumably, there is no wrong answer to that type of question, so I am defining them as troll attacks. So, since I have not seen other people actually explain their negative ratings (EVER); and I have the experience of doing it and my ratings immediately suffering, I assume that the site members (all of whom I respect) that advocate only rating down when one is willing to comment...I asssume that they mean never rate down at all. I am not on board with that. That turns the site to garbage: it does not benefit the cite in my very very humble opinion. There is a lot of crap out there. I am not a big rater-downer. But sometimes I think you have to draw the line.
7) I think that a lot of the trollaphobia could subside if people kept in mind that this is not real life, but a systemic simulation of real life. Trolls aren't really "hurting" you. Get a GRIP! Sometimes you decide to go out on a limb even knowing that they will come after you, and sometimes you vote for keeping your mouth shut and saving your ratings. Think about it this way, when you "go out on a limb" in the real world, like say, Martin Luther King Jr., you sometimes end up a martyr. If you do it here...you might lose a few points. Get a grip and...maybe get OUTSIDE a little bit. Catch some sunshine!
by ChaiCustard on July 29th, 2007
I think they should be give the downraters a choice category, the DEFAULT being something like "Im just a troll - live with it", and a blank one where they must enter at least 4-5 characters. This means they will *have* to make a representation of themselves, but have the freedom of how.
by timetogetserious on January 8th, 2007
No, it will just create more anger, arguments and bitchiness between members.
by unknown on April 7th, 2008
No, I think it would cause a retaliatory down rating war. That is how it used to be on AB and that is what happened. Turn off your ratings button. I did it last year and have never looked back. It's really the best way to AB. You don't have to see that irritating red negative anymore. :)
by Jewel on July 29th, 2007
Absolutely. There is something disquieting about being downrated and not knowing why. Plus, it would just be good manners to give an explanation of why minus rateings might be called for.
I do try not to give it too much thought because dwelling on it, and being bothered by it, is generally what trolls want.
by scubabob on March 3rd, 2007
I was around AB when it was required to leave a comment if you chose to rate "not useful" and, you actually did have to leave a comment or the rate wouldn't register. The way that points are being handed out like candy in this new format, I really don't think it matters if a comment is left or not on a negative rate. If it ticks you off so much, simply add in a comment asking why the downrate. I don't think it ought to be mandatory, no.
by Harro Mique on March 3rd, 2007
I agree with u,that'll help control trolls cause they like to be anonymous,I think,or that will atleast help find identify trolls.
by Sweet T on September 17th, 2008
Yes, I think it is a great idea. If you dont agree with someone, I think you should be big enough to say why.
by Spirit of the Nomad on September 17th, 2008
I think it would be a good idea because it would stop the people who DR just to down rate and I like the idea of conversing with people who have different opinions than I do.
by Carmella on September 17th, 2008
On older versions of Answerbag, this was the case. In some ways it was good, if a user thought they would be held accountable for their DRs then they were less likely to DR for the sake of it. In other ways, it wasn't so good. There were ratings wars, which eventually resulted in the current rating policies.
Here's the story, courtesy of Jodie. http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/249540
by Tinkabelle on April 7th, 2008
No.
What good would arguing with someone over opposing opinions do? It wouldn't solve anything but having an avatar to go along with the "injustice" of being downrated.
by Jodie44 on August 6th, 2007
If I'm sure the person whose answer I DR'd can accept it with some dignity and grace and won't go in for retaliatory downrating, sure I'll explain.
I DR'd an answer yesterday and explained my reasons for doing so. The person I DR'd got royally pissed and told me I was the nastiest person on AB or some such BS. Her "answer" was a judgmental non-answer, BTW. I'm not sure what else she expected.
It's idealistic to assume everyone can take criticism without coming unglued.
by Firebrand on April 18th, 2007
Yes I do ,
and only once in my whole time on here has anyone been polite enough to down rate me and then explain why. That to me was fine because it told me WHY my reply was not helpful and i very much appreciated the persons honesty.
EDIT .It is now 6 months later and I have had 3 people honest enough to tell me why they have DRated my answer. Those peoples honesty means a lot .
by FallingLeaf on January 9th, 2007
no, you shouldn't expect that people's ratings will come with a comment. Sometimes it would be nice to get an explanation, but usually people don't care enough to give one. Answerbag is a free market. Not neccesarily rhyme or reason to what gets rated up or down.
by Namaste formerly future_health_educator on January 9th, 2007
I do understand were you are comming from but I wish people would let this go. You aren't going to change what other people are doing. It is the same thing as if I said do you think it is wrong for a sales person to be rude. Of course it is wrong but some sales people are going to be rude whether you complain about it or not.
by staffie on January 8th, 2007
no because they would all be along the same lines as good answer +?
by Firebrand on July 26th, 2009
This has been a bone of contention for a long time.
Yes I believe you should have to leave a reason why you find the answer unhelpful. After all people are very happy to let you know they have uprated you.
They will not do it .At one time on AB you had to leave a name and reason for bad ratings. It apparently caused a lot of retaliation and problems so it was stopped.
by BigDaddyBS on June 2nd, 2009
This has been asked and answered a MILLION times before, but, once again, I will say that originally, they DID require comments. It started a ratings war. See http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/249540 .
by Anonymous on May 23rd, 2009
Despite your well thought out name calling, there are legitimate reasons for downrating someone, not just "being lame". And I think you're providing an example of one of the main reasons people keep it anonymous right now. To avoid this kind of nonsense.
by needtoknow on September 17th, 2008
I like that idea because then you wouldn't have to wonder what kind of an idiot would dr. my terrific answer. hahahaha. They don't have to leave their name, just a little comment so you'd know the reason.
I do sometimes wonder why I've been drd. Im much better than I used to be though:))))
by Carpediem COAT ab imo pectore on September 17th, 2008
I believe that "2old2dieyoung" is absolutely right in her answer I totally agree with her.
by teedious now has a picture yae on August 6th, 2007
It seems like some would be afraid of being downrated in retaliation. If it's a normal person, and they see the reason, I think they should be able to handle it. But some people are just jerks. Maybe a polite reason as to why they were downrated would help, but still. I've only downrated one time. For me, something has to be really stupid for me to want to downrate it, so I think it'd be fairly obvious as to why I did it in the first place.
by APACHEmeansENEMY on August 6th, 2007
i dont downrate very often, and when i do i dont always leave a reason...i have never recieved a reason for being downrated...i know alot of people say they do it..but i have yet to see it.
by still loves cheerios on July 29th, 2007
Yes, anything would do
by Freaky_Chick on July 29th, 2007
Yeah they should have have a reason why they give you negative points,if not for any reason they are just trolling.
by Jodie44 on June 10th, 2007
No I don't. That's exactly how Answerbag worked for its first couple of years and all it did was lead to hard feelings, retaliatory negative ratings, and ratings wars. Unfortunately, it's unrealistic to believe that everyone will take negative ratings in stride.
For more on the issue:
http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/249540
by Cannabis its just a plant on June 6th, 2007
No, ratings are just that. Someone is able to rate your answer for validity or opinion, its a great system.
If someone wants to make a comment that is where they do it, in the comments section.
Every time I see a down-rate it is very helpful for me. I then can revise or it just reinforces that not everyone agrees 100% with my point.
by bagless77 on March 3rd, 2007
I don't think that it should be mandatory. There are times when I downrate simply because it was offensive. In many cases, the offendor is looking for that reaction and will simply start trolling me after that. Additionally, the answer may simply be unhelpful such as answering a question about being pregnant when you are a man and the writer again alreday knows they are unhelpful. If there is something that can be fixed, such as an incorrect answer, then I will leave a comment. I mostly uprate though, and would love a comment as to why my answer was uprated. It is just nice to hear. :)
by Yeux on March 3rd, 2007
I never down-rate or give a negative rating!
But, I think it should be an option to give a reason for down-rating. However, out of courtesy people should say why they down-rate a response so the person who left the response might learn something or understand the other persons' way of thinking, should their answer be an incorrect one.
by Anonymous on March 3rd, 2007
Sometimes, when I am down-rated I think, yes there should be a reason, but honestly, I think it is obvious why I am down-rated at times (which isn't often). Usually you can tell if your answer is contentious, offensive or not-helpful, and if you cannot tell why you were down-rated and blame it on a troll - then take heart that it does not minus points from your total. I think the whole point thing is getting out of hand (but maybe I can think that now as I am getting higher up in the ranks). If we choose not to take it seriously then there is nothing trolls can do to hurt you :)
by beenaroundtheblock on January 17th, 2007
yes absolutely!!!!!!! I don't mind a thoughtful rejection of my opinion, or if I share incorrest facts, someone should call me on it, for the sake of others. But this petty childish business where some Christians downpoint any answers that differ in view from theirs is a real turn off, turns me off of them as individuals and leaves a bad taste in my mouth as far as Christians in general.
All it does is limit the free exchange of ideas and limit opportunities to learn. We shouldn't be afraid to ask or answer the hard questions, how much more fun and interesting it would be if we could. I would way more prefer to hear the opinion of someone who thinks differently than I, I already know what I think.
by mcclisteraf on January 17th, 2007
Most definately yes.
by Biggie15 on January 17th, 2007
To quote a topic that I read yesterday, many 'immature grade school fungi kids' mark good answers down. So in a way, I think it would be a good idea, unless the answer or question was blatantly stupid
by EL1 2 on January 17th, 2007
Yes
by nevets - badgicide on January 8th, 2007
No.
Sometimes I rate up an answer and I feel that's enough.
If I were required to leave a comment for rating someone, I would not rate people so much.
by EL1 2 on January 4th, 2007
Yes.
by Lady Alathia of Vulcan on June 7th, 2009
This has been hashed and rehashed.
The final decision always comes to the fact that the point system loses ALL meaning if the anonymity is lost. As soon as we open the "DR-wars", we might as well not give out points at all.
by Mech675 on May 23rd, 2009
Even the most well thought out question can get DRed . The fact is people do have free will hear and will not always look at things the way you do. Do I agree with you? Yes. Will it happen? No. To many people would stalk the person who DR'ed them. That would undermine the system. +5 for the question. But people will be people.
by Sweet T on September 29th, 2008
That would be great, how about you start first.
by gtravels loves her life penguin on September 29th, 2008
I think you'll find lots of interesting opinions here:
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/111221
by MagicSquares on September 17th, 2008
I can see both sides of this one, as usual, but maybe a compromise would be to make people leave an anonymous comment. That way, you may at least be able to see why your question or answer was downrated, without the risk of retaliation wars flaring up.
There will obviously be those who will leave nonsense comments, but if members adhere to the spirit of this site, then the overall result should be an improvement in this community.
by I Hope My Name Fi on September 17th, 2008
It would be nice, because random people just put negative ratings for no apparent reason.
by killdrphil - reasonable for a madman on September 17th, 2008
I don't usually agree with a downrate because I think my answers through but I can pretty much always guess why I was downrated so I don't think it's necessary for anyone to leave a comment. Besides, anyone leaving a comment is basically asking for a debate that who knows how long will last.
by 2old2dieyoung on September 17th, 2008
No.
That would increase troll activity in retaliation.
Trolls would still have to leave comments, but they likely wouldn't be legitimate, so it's pointless.
by Caelub on September 17th, 2008
that might create tentions, as it would elliminate the anonymity of the rating.
by Major Look at yerself on April 7th, 2008
I thought the sad thing about trolls is they can only type in grunts. Hence, negative ratings;-)
by Dee Dee just havin some fun on January 25th, 2008
I don't know. It sometimes surprises me. I don’t think I so obnoxious that I deserve a down rate.
by oLd SkooL FooL is Smoking A Fat Joint on January 25th, 2008
Because they're too much of a bitch to say why they disagree with your answers.
to all the people that go through the trouble of leaving negative ratings but no comments
by Lovehearts on January 25th, 2008
Some people feel they have the right to downrate without commenting.
Sometimes it's just trolls being trolls.
And you can't, no.
:]
Would Jesus approve of humourless reactionary anonymous downrating?
by philosopher-saint on December 4th, 2009
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dazed is now going to ask a dazed question so please help: How do you downrate people? Seriously.It's not the same as flagging is it?
by dazed on November 29th, 2010
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when i hit the "like" icon to give someone a compliment...it simply goes to unlike....what am i doin wrong?
by starry111 on August 3rd, 2011
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How do you give points?
by Kittenlady is waving to a friend on June 23rd, 2011
| 4 people like this
How do I troll now that there is no downrating system?
by ExactlyTwentyLetters on December 11th, 2009
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You're reading Do you think that every time you/somebody down-rates something, they should also comment on it explaining why they think it is a bad answer?
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Comments
I tought you wanted me to call you! LOL
by Miyaku on January 8th, 2007
I would love to talk to you, Miyaku. Lat night I was so tired I almost passed out sitting at the computer. Check your email, chick.
by Jodie44 on January 8th, 2007
Ok! I'll do it now! Luv Ya mum!!!!
by Miyaku on January 8th, 2007
Ooh! Thumbs-up! I never heard this before. That truly, if what you really want is a reason, then you HAVE it. There is no concrete rationale behind you needing to know the REASON + THE PERSON because, well...we all know what that equals. Great brain work, Jodie! You've solved everyone's problems in one fell swoop. Fax this off to Joel, please!
by zazzy_one on January 9th, 2007
JODIE: THANKS FOR THE INFO ON SITE HISTORY. I keep trying to find out stuff from the oldsters but no one ever responds to the posts. Girlfriend, you should think about writing some freelance. This was a way entertaining, humorous account of you recall!
by zazzy_one on January 9th, 2007
Thank you zazzy. I am honored by your comments:)
by Jodie44 on January 9th, 2007
Thanks for posting this. It's good for us to know our roots.
by Darkling on January 11th, 2007
Great answer Jodie.
by ptrask on January 13th, 2007
Fantastic answer!
by Carmella on January 14th, 2007
Brilliant answer!
by Anonymous271 on January 14th, 2007
I get a flashback to reading the intro to the star wars with the clone wars :)
by BobSaccamano-is-back on January 30th, 2007
LOL.
by Jodie44 on January 30th, 2007
Hi mom!!!!!
by Miyaku on January 31st, 2007
Geez, and I thought World Wars were bad. How come this never made the international news scene?
by Ausbabe on February 5th, 2007
No war correspondents were brave enough to enter the fray:)
by Jodie44 on February 5th, 2007
And I'm guessing being able to sneak cameras into the warzone would have been a mean feat.
by Ausbabe on February 5th, 2007
You read about my experience with photographs, so yes, that would be a mean feat. (I'm not sure why - I just didn't know what else to write, LOL) I started to ask you why you were up so late until I checked the world clock - it's Tuesay afternoon, just after 3pm for you, right? It's 8pm Monday here and I think it's 9 where Lyn lives.
by Jodie44 on February 5th, 2007
Yup, that's it. The little hand is pointing to the 3 and the big hand is pointing to the 20. Still unable to concentrate. it's driving me nuts - it's the last ever assignment I have to do for my welfare course and as said, it's just insanity inducing.
by Ausbabe on February 5th, 2007
I read your bio - you have a lot on your plate! When is school over?
by Jodie44 on February 5th, 2007
School is over... TODAY!!!! Yay. I finished my assignment, a friend proofed it for me and liked it - high praise from her as she's an honours level student. So that's it, I printed it out and now it's ready to be handed in!
by Ausbabe on February 6th, 2007
Sounds like you're feeling much better. YAY! Congrats on everything!! Now you can be like the rest fo us fools and get totally addicted to Answerbag.
by Jodie44 on February 6th, 2007
well that read like a lovely story, couldnt put it down...
by Emmagirl wants to leave and not leave... on March 29th, 2007
Wow, thanks, Emmagirl. That's really nice of you to say so.
by Jodie44 on March 29th, 2007
welcome...keep writing!
by Emmagirl wants to leave and not leave... on March 29th, 2007
wow sounds like some major drama ensued! i am glad to have missed it.. i agree that some comments could be kept anonymous.
by haggis on October 8th, 2007
It was crazy! All but one of those people (Platinum) are still active members now.
by Jodie44 on October 8th, 2007
Hey guys, I finished my course and now work in Child Protection so am doing a different kind of studying these days. Thanks for the support everyone showed during those dark days! Much love, Meg.
by Ausbabe on October 8th, 2007
Awesome!! And you're welcome
by Jodie44 on October 8th, 2007
Jode, this is a great history lesson and a well-written, entertaining story, to boot! I love the precious metals and
heavenly bodies. :) Thanks for the info.
by Taylor on October 27th, 2007
Thanks, Taylor!!
by Jodie44 on November 16th, 2007
Credit where it is due, Jodie. I understand you have been/are away. I'm too new to really grasp all the internal struggles going on around here, but I can certainly tell you that I think you're great! AB is reduced in its quality by your absence.
by Taylor on November 16th, 2007
Being a recent arrival to AB and having missed the - affray, I'm grateful for the background on the bitterness that still ensues regarding DRs. Although I do agree that a comment ought to be left, it should only be as a benefit to 'enlighten' the poor deluded soul who left the crass answer!
I've DRd twice, once because the question was so offensive I couldn't believe what I was reading, and the other because it was just very badly out of place - I only DRd it 1 point, so it's not like the person would care much! And I did leave comments in both cases.
Thanks for explaining this so clearly - I actually wish I'd been there! :)
by Mimi..smiling...there is no Option Two.. on January 31st, 2008
If people would ask for clarification nicely, rather than react it would be better and DRs would be less of an issue. Not evryone can play nice in the sandbox though. In the old days, people took disputes offline which meant that the drama level was much reduced. I had very good results when I took this course of action. Great answer.
by Andy Is Wicked Married to Penal Colony on February 8th, 2008
Wow. Someone should contact the staff and veteran users about writing a book...
by ninja man on February 20th, 2008
Thanks, y'all. i just now saw this!
by Jodie44 on February 20th, 2008
Jodie44
Wow, thank you for all the information. I got about halfway through before my eyes begged for a rest. Are the aforementioned warriors starring in "One: The Ratings War" still with us to date?
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If to answer this is to start another revolt don't answer, I will send you an email if more appropriate. That being said, I am hooked on AB and I really like so many of the people here. I hope things are better here for all nowadays! :)
by Cognition aka Cog on March 8th, 2008
@Cognition: They are much better and it would start a revolt if stated here (pardon the interuption Jodie).
by Andy Is Wicked Married to Penal Colony on March 8th, 2008
@ Cognition - Yes, most of those users are still active. One was penalty boxed and because of that and other, unrelated reasons, decided to leave permanently. I'm glad you like AB!!
Andy, no problem:)
by Jodie44 on March 8th, 2008
Thank you! I completely undersatnd.
by Cognition aka Cog on March 8th, 2008
You're welcome. Naming names would serve no purpose except distracting readers from the real issue, and that's bad writing.
by Jodie44 on March 8th, 2008
You are absolutely right! See you around AB :)
by Cognition aka Cog on March 8th, 2008
drama free zone. thanks
by haggis on March 8th, 2008
YES!!!
by Jodie44 on March 8th, 2008
Wow, this is a great source of information. I didn't come across it on my quest for knowledge about this site. It should be put on the home page.
by FireFly on April 6th, 2008
Good answer JODIE44......And thanks to idine I found it......Plus 6 my FRIENDS.............M.C.S.
by - M.C.S. - Dave on April 7th, 2008
Yes M.C.S., idne gave a wonderful time line of Jodie's contributions to AB. Thank you idne!!! You made the "Party" memorable.
by Cognition aka Cog on April 7th, 2008
Awww, thanks, y'all. I'm a little hungover, myself, lol.
And yes, that was really nice of idne to post those links. She's a sweetheart. And both of you are, too.
by Jodie44 on April 7th, 2008
Well I hope you get "unhung" soon... I am feeling strange today too, dizzy and unfocused. I took my BP and it's normal for me, guess it's just an off day!
I appreciate the thanks and I hope I did not embarrass you... too much.
by Cognition aka Cog on April 7th, 2008
checking back in with all of you! It's been FAR too long... sigh. I miss AB and all the awesome members. It's arms, it's legs, even the dangly bits we're not sure serve a purpose...
Still working in Child Protection btw and transferring to a local area office hopefully soon due to getting tired of the shocking realisation each and every month since I started that I'm spending a minimum (!!!) of $600 on fuel each month. Boy, there's a saving I'm looking fwd to.
So how are all the usual suspects?
by Ausbabe on April 8th, 2008
Cognition, when you get that way, you may want to check your blood sugar as well as your blood pressure.
by Darkling on April 20th, 2008
Hi Ausbabe! Nice to see you again. $600 on fuel? Holy crap.
Good advice, Darkling.
by Jodie44 on April 20th, 2008
Thanks, I just wish it wasn't first hand advice :P
by Darkling on April 20th, 2008
Yes Darkling thank you!
by Cognition aka Cog on April 21st, 2008
You're welcome. Good luck with it!
by Darkling on April 22nd, 2008
cheers jodie it's allways intressting to know how ab became the great site it is today.
by BOOZE HOUND... nothing is nonsence on May 14th, 2008
Thanks, BOOZE HOUND:)
by Jodie44 on May 14th, 2008
your welcome
by BOOZE HOUND... nothing is nonsence on May 14th, 2008
Excellent answer Jodie! That about sums it up ;-)
by HungryGuy on May 25th, 2008
LOL. No doubt you recall this AB history lesson pretty well, huh?
by Jodie44 on May 25th, 2008
Uh huh ;-)
by HungryGuy on May 25th, 2008
Good one Jodie (((hugs)))
by Anonymous on August 17th, 2008
bam evened it out to 400 that was an entertaining and informative read.
by John Cox on November 8th, 2009