In the Koran fasting is requested . is fasting water good for the human body?

Fasting isn't requested in the Koran and Islam...it is required. As far as fasting water. It isn't great for the body to do...but it is a test given and a test taken. The entire point to fasting during Ramadan is to find your spiritual center by getting closer to those that struggle every day. We bring ourselved down a level to remain more humble. The fasting is only during sun-up hours so we are free to eat and drink at night and early morning.

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i will disagree and find that for the poor who starve all the year around .seen some people mimicking starving Plain INSULTING to them!also i know that during the month of Ramadan you eat far more and more expensive items so your augment is again false.well at least we agree that fasting water is not good for the body .
so in the mind of your creator how can he impose on you something he knows is bad for you ???by the way how do the esquimos follow the holy month of Ramadan ? th sun never either rises or sets?
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by sharpjwe on November 2nd, 2008
wow..you just want to argue points against...you aren't wanting to learn...How many homeless or starving people do you know? Have you asked them how they feel about us fasting? And how can we be eating MORE if we AREN'T eating? I don't follow your logic. As far as eskimos, fasting is based on the sun-up and sun-down time at Mecca...If the sun rises on Mecca at 7 am, then at 7 am you start fasting. Also, the water thing...if we can drink water before sun-up and after sun-down...there is about 13 hours that we won't drink water...it's not GREAT for us...but it's not detrimental either.
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by Spengo on November 2nd, 2008
Spengo, there you go again spewing bullcrap.The fact is Mo wrote the k cos he had a wild imagination. God isnt stupid like the k depicts him to be. your arguements show your ignorance. its funny how you twist things around to suit your beliefs in stating it's "Mecca time" for Eskimos yet Muslims all over the world follow the fasting rules according to their own timezone. Pure hogwash or sincere ignorance, which are you?
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by Mystical on November 3rd, 2008
Spengo, You certainly picked up a couple of trolls here, didn't you? They are good for a laugh!
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by Theby on November 3rd, 2008
spengo..wrong..fasting is based on when the sun goes up and down where you live...not in mecca..but that is for you muslims to argue..i do haowver know this to be the islamically acceptable truth for the vast majority of muslims based on quran...
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by Happy-Dance on November 3rd, 2008
Allah intends for you ease, and He does not want to make things difficult for you. (He wants that you) must complete the same number (of days), and that you must magnify Allah for having guided you so that you may be grateful to Him" (2: 185).
"It is made lawful for you to have sexual relations with your wives on the night of the fasts. They are garments for you and you are the same for them. Allah knows that you used to deceive yourselves, so He turned to you and forgave you. So now have sexual relations with them and seek that which Allah has ordained for you, and eat and drink until the white thread (light) of dawn appears to you distinct from the black thread (darkness of night), then complete your fast till the nightfall.
And do not have sexual relations with them (your wives) while you are in Itikaf in the mosques. These are the limits (set) by Allah, so approach them not. Thus does Allah make clear His signs to mankind that they may become Al Muttaqun (the pious)" (2:187).
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by Happy-Dance on November 3rd, 2008
NO MENTION OF MECCA..JUST SAYS THEN COMPLETE YOUR FASTING TILL THE NIGHT FALL..
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by Happy-Dance on November 3rd, 2008
correct cathy...I agree with all things you said...and you answered the question yourself backing my statement...you said "He does not want to make things difficult for you". It would be difficult to fast somewhere that the sun didn't rise nor set for those 30 days. The easiest solution is to go by Mecca time in that situation, then everyone that is in a less than hospitable place can still fast from the same time until the same time. Salaam
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by Spengo on November 4th, 2008
LOLOLOLOL. Good one Spengo but youre only fooling yourself and poor theby and all the little thebies and spengos out in cyberland. Cheers
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by Mystical on November 4th, 2008
go ahead spengo..legislate islam from your holier than thou chair..if you are believing muslim (one who has completley studied and agree with the religion)....follow your holy book...not people who say ther way is just "Easier"
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by Happy-Dance on November 4th, 2008
when you look into the sky fast from thread to thread..as your holy book says...dont listen to people who try to "make things easier"...
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by Happy-Dance on November 4th, 2008
I was saying it was easier because there are readers to these forums that haven't dug into scripture that deeply and I wanted to answer the question in a way that made sense without getting too deep. I can see that you don't care about other people in the fact that you want to cloud these forums with confusion. Another place and I would quote scripture, but that had only had 2 or 3 occurrences lately so I was trying to keep it an easy read while still covering the material.
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Mystical, you laughed at my answer and said that I was confusing things, but you offered no counterpoint so I will take it that you found nothing to counterpoint and your flamboyant response is turning personal because you have nothing to say. Good day sir
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Salaam
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by Spengo on November 4th, 2008
the counter point is.....follow your religion....not the all powerful spengo....hope you dont mind Mystical
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by Happy-Dance on November 4th, 2008
see i have respect for muslims who follow their religion after choosing it out of knowledge..if a muslim does not know the basics of fasting it only proves they kown nothing of their faith..if you become or stay muslim before in depth research..you are just a kool aid drinker...if you study and understand what you claim to believe in....god bless and live a healthy life..
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by Happy-Dance on November 4th, 2008
fasting s one of the five BASIC beliefs of islam...how can anyone say they are muslim if they dont understand the basic tenants of fastings.....
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by Happy-Dance on November 4th, 2008
lol..yes I know what it is about...cathy, I understand it. you don't seem to read anything that I post..you see 2 words and yell about it through 3 posts. I don't want people to follow me. I never wanted that, I never asked for that and you should show me where I told people to follow me.
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I never questioned how to fast, when to fast, why to fast...I said it was required by Islam and I gave reasons. Fasting is done from sun-up to sun-down. There are places however that don't have sun-up or sun-down and the simple exception to provide them with the blessing of Ramadan is to fast during the hours of sun-up and down at Mecca. It just makes sense. I'm sorry that you would rather argue simple things that require no argument. While we are opening the door to hard questions...you claim to be Christian, so tell me where the Bible uses the word Trinity and show me where Jesus himself called himself the "son of God"
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by Spengo on November 4th, 2008
the word trinity is not used..however gaod the father.god the son and the holy spirit are used.....and nothing i say will convince you jesus is god...so why play the word games...could it be that you are having as much fun with this as I am???? could it be..you run to answer my post as soon as they go up...i'm feeling the love..i am however engaged and wil be married in Feb....sorry my sweet
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by Happy-Dance on November 4th, 2008
I don't find people discrediting my religion to be fun. I'm sorry that you have fun doing so. I answer posts when I have time, I get between 40 and 50 responses to various posts daily. When I have 5 min or so I log in to check to clear it out so I don't get too far behind. I put priority on religious questions as religion has ultimate priority in my life. Grats on the wedding...I am getting married Jan 1 :)
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by Spengo on November 4th, 2008
sorry we missed each other..would have made an interesting relationship with stimulating dinner converstion and great make up sex...(smile)....
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by Happy-Dance on November 4th, 2008
ofcorse in the context of marriage..congrats..
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by Happy-Dance on November 4th, 2008
no one here is discrediting religion ( it does so itself by all the contradictions in the books ) i john sharp am asking questions. so can you clearly answer the question spengo said fasting water is not good .
but the how a god who made man can request for man something he now is not good. if you find fats offending that is sad.instead of being offend give the answer. thought i am surprised how any humain can dare speak in the name of any one but themselves , so god please answer if you do exist your failure to do so proves your non existence . facts only please
there is no muslim esquimos left they all died waiting for the sun to go down......
as for the basic fact of islam i know them too well to see no mulim applies them ( over 10 years life in muslim contries )
one example smoking is Haram yet 70 % muslim men smoke .
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by sharpjwe on November 4th, 2008
sharp, you can't use the percentage thing because sin is haram and 100% of humans do it
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by Spengo on November 4th, 2008
sorry i am atheist i cannot sin! may be i can do wrongs to others but not sin .well if 100% humans sin how can even one expect to go to heaven? where are the good religious folks , if there are none why bother with the exercise?
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by sharpjwe on November 4th, 2008
sharpie..change your name..cause you not very sharp...we sin because we are human...even good religious people who believe in and fear god sin..it is human nature...it is the faith in god and the struggle against sin that brings us to god...and as a christian the belief in jesus christ..before jesus people would offer blood sacrifices for their sins to be forgiven...but this is no longer the case..we believe in the blood jesus shed for us, and our sins are forgiven..but the belief must be sincere, as the repentance must be.....and no one shall enter heaven until judgement day..when jesus will judge the living and the dead
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by Happy-Dance on November 4th, 2008
sorry my name is john wilfred edward sharp from birth cannot change that .sin is the privilege of the believes. non religious folks cannot sin sorry we can do wrong may be but not sin , so you too be sharp!i will go to hell thanks i know you are so loving ...
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by sharpjwe on November 20th, 2008
I'm confused sharp...you say you cannot sin because you don't believe in God...What about people that don't believe in Aids, they can still die from it...belief doesn't dictate reality. Your lack of belief doesn't force your statement to be true. It just means that you have validated the reason to yourself.
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by Spengo on November 21st, 2008
aids is reality and is deadly virus
well be confused it is clear only believers sin
Sin is a term used mainly in a religious context to describe an act that violates a moral rule, or the state of having committed such a violation. Commonly, the moral code of conduct is decreed by a divine entity (such as Yahweh or Allah in the Abrahamic religions).
so my remark is 100% correct according to the dictionary .
but some can believe that the dictionary is wrong too.
and validate what ever gets them high for themselves
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by sharpjwe on November 22nd, 2008
A sin is a sin is a sin. Doesn't matter whether you believe it or not. It's up to Allah to decide. What are you doing asking inane questions on this site if you are not trying to stir up trouble? Hell has different levels, I hope there is a place waiting for you on the day of judgement, right down the bottom, Insh'Allah
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by Theby on November 22nd, 2008
you contradict yourself within your own answer sharp...you are not right according to the definition due to the fact it says "used MAINLY in a religious context" that means it has implications and uses OUTSIDE of religion. Your mantra is "learn to read" I suggest you practice what you preach
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by Spengo on November 22nd, 2008
A good point, Spengo.
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by Theby on November 22nd, 2008
ALL YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH.
atheist cannot sin they can do wrong , not sin.
religious folks want to apply the word to me i refute it .
i do not break religious morals for i think they are all lies and they cannot be applied to me i follow the rule of the state only .
go to English school and come back to me .
i am dyslectic and my writing and reading is impaired .
i see that you religious humanity is not applied when you still kick a man when he is down , but religions and god cannot hurt me , neither can humans.
and again i want you god to come now and tell me eye to eye
if he dares
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by sharpjwe on November 23rd, 2008
for starters, if you truly were DYSLEXIC, you would know how to spell it...I also suffer from this condition. Secondly, you said "religions and god cannot hurt me, neither can humans". Are you stating that you are invulnerable to a gunshot? I'm confused how you can claim not to be harmable by humans and categorize that with God. And what you don't understand is that "sin" isn't ONLY in religion but PRIMARILY in religion.
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by Spengo on November 23rd, 2008
dyslexics cannot spell.....normal if i spell different every time .
cannot hurt does not imply cannot kill.
the dictionary has expanded the word
i disagree still atheist cannot sin .
all you religious people are governed by lies
hardly a good base to moralize others
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by sharpjwe on December 1st, 2008
sharp, No-one has ever seen Allah. What makes you so special as to think that Allah would show himself to you. Plus you are an infidel, you have about as much chance of Allah showing himself to you as squeezing blood out of a stone.
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by Theby on December 2nd, 2008
I think that stones have more blood than sharp has common sense
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by Spengo on December 2nd, 2008
strange what you say .
in my job i am good
in life i am good
most come to me for advice
and you say i have no common sense .
paradox it is religion that has no common sense
i really wish to meet you both and talk live over a good meal.
the stones have the blood of the infidels , adulterers and gay
so there is blood on the Muslim stones ...spengo
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by sharpjwe on December 3rd, 2008
I would like you to please find me one koranic scripture that uses the word infidel. As far as adulterers and gays go...I have nothing wrong with punishing adulterers for what they do. Gays, kind of a touchy subject. I have many gay friends, I do not discriminate. I also do not approve of the lifestyle. It's not for me to judge. It's between you and God. When you die, hopefully many fruitful safe years down the road, and you face God, though you don't believe this will happen, and He says "you failed the test I put before you" What will you say? Hypothetically since you don't believe it.
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by Spengo on December 3rd, 2008
i will give god as much if not more than i give to you .
better still as he was the maker of this mess i will tell the idiot off to his face . that is why he gave me a brain to question his mess .
so now you have killed 77 % of humans by stoning well done .
religions are sure so nice .
well i got news for you in my religions think what we have to do
the same as you do to us nice is it not ?
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by sharpjwe on December 3rd, 2008
it is in arabic so it will not show infidel it will show Kafir.
Kafir (Arabic: كافر kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār) is an Arabic word meaning "rejecter" or "ingrate". In the Islamic doctrinal sense, the term refers to a person who does not recognize God (Allah) or the prophethood of Muhammad (i.e., any non-Muslim) or who hides, denies, or covers the "truth". In cultural terms, it is seen as a derogatory term[1] used to describe an unbeliever, non-Muslims, apostate from Islam and even between Muslims of different sects. It is usually translated into English as "infidel" or "unbeliever".

Islamic law (sharia) distinguishes three types of kafirs:

1. kafir dhimmi, a non-Muslim subject of a state governed in accordance with sharia law
2. kafir harbi, a non-Muslim living in a non-Muslim country, and
3. kafir musta'min, a harbi visiting a Muslim country for less than a year.
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by sharpjwe on December 3rd, 2008
so now show me where that word is in the koran
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by Spengo on December 3rd, 2008
spengo do you not know the koran for a muslim so sad
70:1 A questioner questioned concerning the doom about to fall
(70:1-30) Doom is about to fall on all disbelievers(Kafir). Only worshippers (Muslims) and those who preserve their chastity (except with their wives and slave girls) will be spared from "the fires of hell" that are "eagar to roast."
70:2 Upon the disbelievers (Kafir), which none can repel,
70:36 What aileth those who disbelieve, that they keep staring toward thee (O Muhammad), open-eyed,
3:32 Allah loveth not the disbelievers.(Kafir)
30:45 He loveth not the disbelievers. (Kafir)
4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve ... take them and kill them wherever ye find them.
9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.

i do not have the full koran so this will do .
your book of lies not mine
why did you become muslim ?
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by sharpjwe on December 4th, 2008
let me rephrase...I see why that seems confusing...show me a post where it says it's okay to kill disbelievers because they are disbelievers. Show me the smoking gun scripture that says that as a Muslim, I am commanded to kill non-muslims.
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by Spengo on December 5th, 2008
if you say Surah 9:5 I'm going to end the conversation because you don't know what context means
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by Spengo on December 5th, 2008
this question is is water fasting good for the human body
answer that ?
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by sharpjwe on December 5th, 2008
Read over your question again. It does not make sense. Even the original question is nonsensical.
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by Theby on December 5th, 2008
what non sense ?
clear is fasting water good or not for the human body ? what is it you do not understand .
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by sharpjwe on December 5th, 2008
What makes it "fasting water?" No-one drinks water when they are fasting.
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by Theby on December 5th, 2008
is the fact that you do not drink water from 0400 till 1800 good or bad for the human body . fasting food is not so harmful fasting water is very harmful to the body .from you answers i am really stating to believe you are height on religious drugs, and you minds are altered
Fasting is primarily the act of willingly abstaining from some or all food, drink, or both, for a period of time. A fast may be total or partial concerning that from which one fasts, and may be prolonged or intermittent as to the period of fasting.
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by sharpjwe on December 8th, 2008
There are no set hours for when we don't drink water. It changes every day according to the hours of sunrise and sunset. I still do not know what you mean by 'fasting water'. Do you mean the water we drink whilst we are eating after sunset? I assume that is what you do mean because, as I said before, we do not drink anything whilst we are fasting. I understand your second paragraph but not the first one. Our religion forbids drugs of any kind.
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by Theby on December 8th, 2008
you are a lost cause
not drinking water as recommended by your god and religion is bad for the human body , the few minutes change nothing to the fact you leave the human body in the heat f the day for about 14 hours without water is pure stupidity.
you really do not understand the second parts either
religion = drugs
religion is a drug
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by sharpjwe on December 8th, 2008
religion is not a drug. Look at the definition:
1. Pharmacology. a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being.
2. (in federal law)
a. any substance recognized in the official pharmacopoeia or formulary of the nation.
b. any substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in humans or other animals.
c. any article, other than food, intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of humans or other animals.
d. any substance intended for use as a component of such a drug, but not a device or a part of a device.
3. a habit-forming medicinal or illicit substance, esp. a narcotic.
4. drugs,
a. chemical substances prepared and sold as pharmaceutical items, either by prescription or over the counter.
b. personal hygienic items sold in a drugstore, as toothpaste, mouthwash, etc.
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by Spengo on December 8th, 2008
According to the definition...a drug is a physical item administered to the human body. Beliefs CAN NOT be drugs. Sharp, stop posting on these threads as you are not trying to learn from or give educated answers to these questions.
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by Spengo on December 8th, 2008
it acts on the mind like a drug
LogicalMind:
Religion is just like drugs.
- It's been around since prehistory, when cavemen burned magic herbs and worshipped monkeys and rocks.
- It's a problem to society.
- It ruins lives.
- Once you're hooked, it's realy difficult to quit.
Islam is like heroin
- It's the most dangerous religion in the world
- It's addicts will kill for it
- A common withdrawal symptom is death
- Most of it comes from the Middle East
- Cartels wage private wars against the West.
- It turns women into slaves and men into rapists and murderers
- It often leads to suicide.
these are private opinions of coarse . i can only speak for my lonely self .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology_of_religion
i am not the only crazy one around as it seems
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by sharpjwe on December 9th, 2008
Just go away. Your 'logic' is nonsensical.
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by Theby on December 9th, 2008
we will never go away
freethinking people will always be there .
religions have tried to kill us when religions had power
now your power days are counted enjoy them
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by sharpjwe on December 9th, 2008
As Spengo said, you are not learning, you are not contributing, why don't you go to an athiest site?
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by Theby on December 9th, 2008
i wonder what religion can teach me ?
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by sharpjwe on December 9th, 2008
religion can teach you to not hate...you claim to be "freethinking" and then you attack us with your dogmatic anti-religion. It isn't freethinking to assume an answer before asking the question. I posted what the definition for religion is...if you don't like it I can start swinging the insult bat as well...I mean watch this.
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Homosexuality is like a drug
- it's been around so long it's been recorded in the religious doctrines from thousands of years ago
- it ruins lives
- once it's happened once you can't say you aren't at least bi
- Gay men is like heroine
- it's the most dangerous of homosexual preferences
- it has the highest account of the AIDS virus thus killing more people of it's group in the world
- jealous boyfriends would kill over their cheating s/o
- it turns women into promiscuous street-walkers for attention since there are less available men
- it has led to suicide in many cases

As far as your statement "it often leads to suicide" I would like to say that I work
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by Spengo on December 9th, 2008
in a psych hospital and I do suicide intervention. I have more than once saved a life by reminding someone of their religious beliefs. I don't have a 100% track record for relationship failure based suicide. I do for the religious folk though. Don't talk about what you don't understand. I've seen it save lives. You have done nothing in your life but hate. I don't hate you because you are gay...I don't judge you...that's not my place...grow up.
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by Spengo on December 9th, 2008
well prepare the stone for the stoning of the infidel gay atheist infidel disbeliever . i really wish we could talk all this eye to eye man to man and you will see who i really am .i would even cook for you halal .
religion does many of the wonderfully things you say
but is too does the composite and is know to have destroyed lives.
religion is like manking it is not prefect
god is mankind it is not perfect .
thanks for coping my style a honor coming from you .
best regards john
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by sharpjwe on December 9th, 2008
Spengo, I didn't know you did such important work. I also used to work in a psychiatric hospital. It is very taxing work, both physically and mentally. Keep up the good work.
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by Theby on December 9th, 2008
it is indeed difficult at times. I'm working on my masters in developmental psychology so I can do child behavior therapy. It's rough but necessary. Spending my whole day absorbing everyone else's pain so they don't have to suffer it. Kind of taxing during the Christian holidays. That and finals time.
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by Spengo on December 10th, 2008
well good to share your experiences
i will retire soon and will do some community work.
so as to keep busy .
i do counseling now for HIV + people too.
i wish you both good end of year . and fun next year too.john
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by sharpjwe on December 10th, 2008
Spengo, It must be hard trying to work and educate yourself as well. I hope it all goes well for you.

Best to you, John Salaam
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by Theby on December 10th, 2008
can you explain
how so many religious poeple become extremists now ?
i would love to see all the world at peace like before
i even didi not mind others religions
but now since it is feeding down our throughts it gets too much
rejection
so make your religions clean and we will start treating you accordinly
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by sharpjwe on August 10th, 2009
sharp, When has the world ever been at peace in our lifetime, or in any other lifetime? Everyone wants peace but this is very unlikely to happen.
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by Theby on August 10th, 2009
everyone wants peace..not so..there are some that would rather die killing off their enemy than make peace...remember for the militant islamist there is no fear of death because they are taught if they kill unbelievers their reward is heaven....yeah yeah yeah..please do not tell me that "that is not true islam"...we can argue that all day...what I am telling you is that a large percentage of muslims BELIEVE IT IS TRUE..therefore it is not true that everyone wants peace..some want war and view being a Martyer as a gift from god..
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by Happy-Dance on August 10th, 2009
.....and the USA invades Muslim countries on pathetic pretences. It is not just Muslims who are the wrongdoers. They are just fighting back.
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by Theby on August 10th, 2009
I think happy-dance had it right theby..."there are some that would rather die killing off their enemy". That implies that the enemy already existed. If I had a known clear and present enemy and I could kill them and myself while saving my family...I don't know that I would do it any other way. Would you sacrifice your life for those you love?
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by Spengo on August 11th, 2009
thank you theby....I quote..it is not just the muslims who are wrongdoers.....well finally a step in the right direction..putting blame on two sides rather than justone..i am impressed by your personal growth..
as for spengo..I am not talking about muslims that kill defending their homes..I am talking about the type that slam planes into buildings and blow up nightclubs..anyone has the right to kill defending their families..if in fact they need defending
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by Happy-Dance on August 11th, 2009
Spengo, I would have no hesitation sacrificing myself for my family OR Allah.
Happy-Dance, Of course there are wrongdoers on both sides. If there is a clear and present enemy I would not hesitate to kill. You must realize many Muslims feel impotent when fighting the enemy. I will use the Palestinians as an example. They do not have the same sophisticated weaponry as the Israelis. North America backs Israel. The UN castigated Israel for war crimes against Palestine during the Gaza Strip fiasco but was anything done? Drastic situations call for drastic measures. An enemy that feels powerless will resort to means that would not normally be considered, especially if the enemy is despised worldwide.
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by Theby on August 11th, 2009
well said theby. An easy way to look at it is this...if a man/woman/child can strap on a bomb, walk out their front door and blow up the "enemy" as you put it, that are from a country half way around the world...who is really the aggressive force? The guy that was at home and one day out his window was what he had always known as his home and the next day is a war zone? Or the guy that was trained by the military to be a warrior that happened to be outside the other guys window creating a war zone?
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by Spengo on August 11th, 2009
I've made my point. Like it or lump it.
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by Theby on August 12th, 2009
you are justifying terrorism against the United States. Imustthink about this for a while..there a number of moves I can make at this point.
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by Happy-Dance on August 12th, 2009
like it or lump it
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by Happy-Dance on August 12th, 2009
I'm not justifying terrorism against the US. I think that the 9/11 attack was unjustified and unexcusable. I also think that any other attack on purely civilian zones is terrorism and un-justifiable. What I'm trying to explain is that, when the US, with it's huge military, goes into a country that barely has running water, we can't get mad that they are attacking us with a less advanced form of weaponry. We also can't get mad that they fight back. You said you would fight and die for your family...they are too. The actual terrorists are unexcusable jerks, the people that are doing it because they feel they are being attacked and their livelyhood/belief system has been crushed...I don't know that I blame them though I think miscommunication is the reason it continues.
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by Spengo on August 12th, 2009
there is an old saying..DONT GET ANGRY WHEN YOU INVITE PEOPLE OVER TO DINNER AND THEY ACTUALLY SHOW UP AND EAT YOUR FOOD...when you ask for problems you get problems..lets make one thing perfectly clear..countries do not getto do whatever they choose whenever they choose..if a country is doing something and desearves to be attacked..then they will be attacked..no one said anything when the americans helped the muslims in kosovo..fact is corrupt goverments that oppress people come in all sizes shapes and religion , INCLUDING ISLAMIC..the hamas run goverment in palestine is oppressing there own people....keeping them from obtaining secuirty based on their own belief that israel needs to be eradicated..
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by Happy-Dance on August 12th, 2009
Israel wants peace...they just want a sustainable peace and are not interested in giving the palestinains land from which they will launch attacks against them...hammas wants war and will not stop until israel is destroyed (which will never happen)..when hamas launches missles into isreal they are inviting trouble..when they get the trouble they cry....grow up..FOR PEACETO EXIST BOTH SIDES MUST WANT IT
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by Happy-Dance on August 12th, 2009
My question to you then is this...what did the women and children in Iraq do that was "inviting people over to dinner"? In fact, what did Iraq do at all? Did we find WMD? Did we find ties to Al-queda? Did we find anything worth killing civilians over? The answer to all the above is no. What did they do to invite us to dinner as you say?
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Also, you contradicted yourself. You said "corrupt governments come in all shapes sizes and religions". Religion isn't government. If someone runs a governemnt as they run a religion they are faulty off the start and you shouldn't judge the religion by that governments actions.
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by Spengo on August 12th, 2009
first of all religion and goverment DO NOT contradict each other whne the goverment is run by people claiming to represent religion.
secondly the woman and children..the elderly and even some of the men did not invite anyone over to dinner, so to speak..Their nasty hate mongering neighbor did..the ones building bombs in their living rooms while their children are playing in the nexxt room..when they choose to act in such a way they are the ones putting their neighbors and families in harms way..how many times has israel dropped bombs on a house that has been used for military purposes only to find out their were also children inside..
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by Happy-Dance on August 12th, 2009
so what is israel suppose to do..just allow the housetobe usedin that fashion or blow the freakin thing up....as a mother..if myhusband walkedin the front door and started building anything that could put my family in jeopardy i would tell him to get the hell out and go across town......it is the same premise as innocent children shot down bydrug dealers in front of their houses...they did nothing.....it was the scum that brought the problem into the neighborhood that directly caused the death of the children and they need to be held accountable
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by Happy-Dance on August 12th, 2009
there will be no peace in the middle east until people realize that the scum need to be eliminated...(and believe me there is scum on both sides)...when hamas and the other scum are held accountable for the grief they have caused..and they are taken out ofthe equation..all you will have left are the people that have the same concerns as you and I..finding work..feeding their families and getting an education...and when that happens there will be peace
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by Happy-Dance on August 12th, 2009
as far as iraq is concerned I think it was a stupid war...make no mistake about it..there were WMD..that were moved accross the boader..imean for crying out loud they had enough warning we were coming...if i had illegal drugs in my house and the cops gave me two months warning that they were comming..hell i would move them out.....all that being said I think Iraq was not a war worth fighting..Afganistan on the other hand was...they harbored terrorist..and would not givethem up...we warned them..we toldthem we would attack if they didnt....so yestheydid invite us over for dinner....yet more scum that put people in danger because they could not handle a peaceful handover of just a few scumba__gs that admitted to killing thousands of innocent people...
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by Happy-Dance on August 12th, 2009
Wait, just because a government is run by people that CLAIM to be representing a religion doesn't mean they are ACUTALLY representing the religion. Religion is neutral, it is a belief. How a person ACTS on that belief is up to that individual...not the belief by itself.
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by Spengo on August 12th, 2009
in your opinion religion is nuetral.. in the very public opinions of those you are fighting this nasty war..they ARE OBLIGATED BY THEIR RELIGION TO FIGHT...and yes we can argue all day about who is right...but at the end of the day both do think they are right..
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by Happy-Dance on August 12th, 2009
not just my opinion...religion IS neutral. Much like a gun. A gun requires someone to pull the trigger in order to kill someone much the same way as a religion needs a follower to misinterpret the scripture. Religion is neutral, people don't follow it right. There is a great phrase that I'm sure you won't pay attention to that goes "Judge not the religion by the followers but let the religion judge the followers". I hope you find the peace you are looking for in life that you clearly aren't finding in your attempt to debase religion.
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by Spengo on August 13th, 2009
http://breadwithcircus.com
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by Theby on August 13th, 2009
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by Theby on August 13th, 2009
hi theby dear...forgive me if i dont click on your well placed links.
Spengo...okay, so religion is nuetral...and these people are not praticing islam...many people hold that same opinion..but if that is the case why are they not viewed as enemies of islam..if what you,argue,is true, (and i will not even bother to give my opinion on the topic, because frankly it is worthless in this debate,) then these people are probably the greatest threat to REAL ISLAM that are alive today..
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by Happy-Dance on August 13th, 2009
They are viewed as enemies of Islam. I have been trying to say that forever. I have said many times that the worst crime that the terrorists have commited is hijacking our religion.
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by Spengo on August 13th, 2009
that is where the major problem exsist..they do not feel like they are hijacking your religion..they will argue they are practicing it as intended..(once agian I will not add my personal opinion)
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by Happy-Dance on August 14th, 2009
Until islam has a reformation, as the christians had when the catholics strayed from the bible, Islam will never be respected the way you want it to be in the west..
A reformation where the leaders of all the sects/mosques converge for a convention that will once and for all seperate culture from islam...and spell out in clear language what is islamic and what is not..
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by Happy-Dance on August 14th, 2009
until that day happens all will continue to practice what they believe to be true islam, including those who chop offheads and bomb nightclubs, and bring trouble to their neighbors because they can not accept co-exsistance with peoples of other religions..
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by Happy-Dance on August 14th, 2009
if islam has been hijacked as you claim it has been..it is time to send in the storm troopers to free it, and the only people that can do that are the muslims..because until the issue of what true islam is, is resolved, you can not blame any non muslim for haveing what you deem to be misconceptions about islam.
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by Happy-Dance on August 14th, 2009
Okay. I have been trying very hard to stick to single post responses as any more tends to get off topic, but I feel I must to respond to what you have said.
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Firstly, your statement "they do not feel like they are hijacking your religion", is an absolutely valid and correct point. I find nothing to argue with that statement. What I can offer in response is simply, what a terrorist believes to be true does not change my belief or my actions. They can percieve whatever they choose...so can I...so can you. Instead of us all making this a religious issue, lets just stick to the fact that I am not a terrorist and neither are you, they are...we should be teaming up against them, not the religion of a peaceful group that has been contorted by the very people we both despise.
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by Spengo on August 14th, 2009
i think i like you spengo.....because i think YOU GET IT..and so many other do not..goodnight
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by Happy-Dance on August 14th, 2009
Secondly, you stated "Until Islam has a reformation, as the christians did". Though I respect your right to religion and I respect your belief, In Islam, we see the reformation of a religion as a downfall. According to Christianity, God presented people with the Bible. That being the case, editing this is changing God's word and should be immediately seen as unacceptable. The reforms of Christianity are one of Christianity's weaknesses. I'm sorry if that offends, I'm just trying to express that your second point can't happen in Islam.
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Your 3rd point will be the hardest to explain. You stated "if islam has been hijacked as you claim it has been..it is time to send in the storm troopers to free it, and the only people that can do that are the muslims..because until the issue of what true islam is, is resolved, you can not blame any non muslim for haveing what you deem to be misconceptions about islam".
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by Spengo on August 14th, 2009
My feelings here are very hard to put into words. I do believe that the religion has been hijacked. That being the case, we have to work to get it back. The problem is that the hijackers are fighting and killing each other and many peaceful people at the same time. Our 2 options to try to get our religion back are to either "fight fire with fire" or to "distance to show difference". If we choose the former, we would have to act out with the very violence that we detest and we would become what we hate and what we are ordered by God NOT to become. If we choose the latter, we seem like we agree by non-confrontation. If someone fights and I do nothing, I seem as though I'm condoning the fight.
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It's a catch 22 that has no right answer. In my efforts to get back my religion, I spend time on AB trying to answer questions honestly and I live my life the way I am told to. People that see me, see a peaceful person that loves all. I only hope that's enough to show peace in Islam.
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by Spengo on August 14th, 2009
Happy, thank you for your statement. I hope that we can have many open minded conversations and debates in the future :)
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by Spengo on August 14th, 2009
reformation is not a downfall..it is a reclaiming of the religions ORGINAL intent..by anyway..goodnight again
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by Happy-Dance on August 14th, 2009
i have seen in the month of ramadan
muslims spend more and eat more expencivce foods
hardly what you say to be more humble !
how do any of you know what religions should be
as they are not proven tales
and all have as many interpretation as there are humans
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by sharpjwe on August 18th, 2009
If someone claims to be Muslim, they shouldn't be eating at all through the days during Ramadan. Ramadan starts very soon and I look forward to the challenge, eat more? no, eat more expensive? no. None should. It is, however, not your place to judge them sharp, Allah will pass His judgement and wrongdoers know what they are doing.
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by Spengo on August 18th, 2009
allah does not exist
how can he judge
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by sharpjwe on August 19th, 2009
If Allah doesn't exist, what difference does it make if a Muslim eats during Ramadan?
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by Spengo on August 19th, 2009
no difference
so free your self from religions
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by sharpjwe on August 20th, 2009
lol. Wait, you are saying that you are upset at "Muslims" that hypocritically eat more during Ramadan. Then you say Allah doesn't exist, so that would mean that Ramadan doesn't mean anything, so it wouldn't matter if they ate more or not. So you are mad that someone is doing something that you feel they SHOULD be doing? You are the most confused person in the world. I hope that you find the peace in this world that you are looking for.
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by Spengo on August 20th, 2009
religious poeple are confused
i do not beleive
that is clear and simple
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by sharpjwe on August 21st, 2009
Sharp, you too are confused. You never respond to my points. You are clearly a troll which I have said in the past. Just stay off the religious threads. We all know you don't believe. We all know you can't type well, we all know you think it's a lie. Just stop. You aren't helping anything with these threads. I'm going to start just flagging your posts as offensive if you have nothing to add that will further the conversation. If you want to add to the debate, by all means do so. If you are just going to harass believers...let it go.
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by Spengo on August 21st, 2009
most, not all..but most muslims I know do eat more during Ramadan then the rest of the year...also, they seem to eat better, as dinner, when they break their fast seems to be the focus of the day...my mother in law used to start cooking at noon for a 6 oclock meal...and the mosque where I live have elaborate meals every night after prayers during ramadan..It seems Ramadan has become more of a social event..rather than a true fast where people go without..I am sure there are plenty of muslims that fast properly..i just dont come across them in mydaily life.
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by Happy-Dance on August 21st, 2009
but then again Christmas is suppose to be a celebration of Christ...and well that has turned into a shopping festival..so i guess we all fall victim to having out religious celebrations "tainted" by human inventions
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by Happy-Dance on August 21st, 2009
I can see how this could happen. I guess I had never thought about it like that since I truly do fast and I know that I actually save a huge amount of money during Ramadan because my food bill drops to a near non-existent number. Again though, if someone is eating more and celebrating it, they aren't doing it right.
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by Spengo on August 21st, 2009
this is why I can have civilized conversations with you Spengo, and not some other muslims on this site..because again..you get it..there are others (who will rename nameless) that go insane if you say anything they deem negative about anyone muslim...things degrade quickly when I converse with them..(yes I get nasty too, I am only human)..but you seem to understand that people are all different..and not everyone that calls themselves by any one religion act the same or the way they are suppose to.
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by Happy-Dance on August 21st, 2009
enjoy your Ramadan
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by Happy-Dance on August 21st, 2009
I'm more than willing to admit that Muslims can have faults as all people do. So I can definitely say that some Muslims would practice Ramadan improperly, I get up in arms when people say things like "Islam teaches this" when it doesn't. I get very defensive in those cases as it's an attack on my personal beliefs. The arguments that "Islam encourages pedophilia" or "72 virgins for martyrdom"....those get me riled up. Aside from that though, yes, I enjoy our civilized discussions.
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by Spengo on August 21st, 2009
well the point i made is correct
the ami of the fasting is well diverted
as mulims do eat more and better foods in the ramadan
it is a social event now
and nothing to do with the real aim
of beeing humble
Spengo if you find offecive
all those who do not have the same opignon it is sad
john
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by sharpjwe on August 22nd, 2009
You are trying to paint too broad a picture with too narrow a brush sharp. You can't say "muslims do eat more" when not ALL muslims do. If you would say "some muslims do" I would agree with you emphatically. Please remember to make the differentiation between the actual scriptural teachings and the practice of man. Ramadan is a holy month, whether you agree with it or not, please don't disrespect it as 25% of the entire world does find it to be a month of great importance, whether they show the importance properly or not.
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by Spengo on August 22nd, 2009
the moth is a sliding one
after 10 year in muslim countries
the majority of thos who can afford
go out of their way to eat more and spend more
thus the opposite of the original teachings
of coarse for the staving millions in the muslim owrld
it makes not much difference the do the ramandan evey day of the year for no rewards from the gods .
no disrespect in the above statements just mere
life first hand experience of liveing 10 years in muslin countries
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by sharpjwe on August 22nd, 2009
you continue to feel that you have the final say so in peoples lives because you lived in Muslim countries. In the time that you were living in these countries, did you ask ALL of these Muslims about their spending habits? or did you just notice that at dinner time after sun-down there were more people having a big meal? Think about it...one BIG meal or 3 normal meals. It makes sense to me that people aren't going overboard overall...merely having a really big meal at dinner.
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by Spengo on August 22nd, 2009
i dont like sharpwe No god no religion approach to anything..but he does raise a valid point..and i have said this mutltiple times..which is another reason Islam needs a re-claiming..(i stopped using the word reformation because you did not like it)
Islam has taxes in it that where put into place to raise money for the poor in islamic society..considering the great deal of wealth in many muslim nations, as well as the millions of muslims in america, one would think that there would no longer be starving muslims around the world...AND I MUST SAY THAT IF THE ISLAMIC POOR TAX WAS COLLECTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN THE CORRECT MANNER...no muslims would go without the basics needed for survival such as food and water...i dont know why people find the idea of a re-claiming so offensive...imagine having one islamic charity where all poor tax is paid..just one..imagine if everyone actually paid it..the amount of money paid would be enough to supple food and clean drinking water to all that need..
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by Happy-Dance on August 23rd, 2009
Your comment/question is very multi-faceted and I wish I could answer it well in one post. First and foremost, there is an assumption here that ALL muslims are paying their Zakat. In all honesty, much like the Muslims that don't fast during Ramadan, many don't. We can't exactly sum up the gross income of 25% of the world, multiply by 2.5% and give that to the poor.
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Since many people don't pay, and those that do live all over the world, we have to be careful as to where we send that money.
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A really big problem is that there are Muslims in every country and all countries have different taxation laws on their civilians. In the US there is no tax on religiously affiliated money. The fear of course is multi-nation laundering. If the people in charge of dispersing the funds were or became corrupt, they would have a tax free multi-nation slush fund. I can't see that ending well.
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The only real way to do it is keeping it small scale at local mosques
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by Spengo on August 23rd, 2009
Your point is well made though, if all people did the right thing, it would be much easier. The problem is apparent though...not everyone does the right thing.
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I agree completely though, it would be a beautiful and fantastic thing if all Muslims did their duty properly, the way it's taught. If they did, there would be no hunger or poverty in Islam. That would show the rest of the world that Islam truly is a peaceful and proper belief and the hideous insults and arguments could end. If all people were financially secure, they would have very litte reason left to fight. I actually imagine a world where that is done and peace harboring through the middle east and then to the rest of the world. I am an idealist though. I follow Koran as closely as I can and I hope that all can do the same. Realistically though, people are greedy and will try to get their piece of the pie at the cost of their eternity. Perhaps one day....
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Salaam
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by Spengo on August 23rd, 2009
that proves one more point
in free secular societies we pay tax 60% to support the system
god allows only 10% and it does not work
no god no religion
prove me the opposite >
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by sharpjwe on August 28th, 2009
Wait, are you saying that religion is faulty because there are less taxes in a religious system? I don't see how people paying in a small amount to help the poor is a bad thing. Are you taxes only going to help the poor? If you took out the money that was being overpayed to politicians and the people skimming off the top, how much do you think you would actually be paying in to programs that worked and needed the money? You pay 60%? You are getting screwed man.
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Also, your logic as always is impecable...you claim that there is proof in the non-existence in God by the amount that humans tax each other.
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Bravo on a=b=c when neither a nor b have anything to do with c.
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by Spengo on August 28th, 2009
I am not a muslim..nor do I think it is the correct religion..if I did think it was, it stands to reason I would be a muslim..but any religious taxes that are paid to help poor people..ARE PAID ON TOP OF TAXES DUE THE GOVERMENT..NOT INSTEAD OF..therefore muslims, that are paying their 10% in religious taxes in the United States are paying that along with their federal, state and local income taxes..just as I as a Christian when I tithe my 10% weekly at church, am also paying my goverment taxes....I am a little confused with sharpwe, somehow not understanding that God is all Knowing..and he knows that we have other taxes to pay..but still has mandated us to pay a small tax TO GOD..to make life just a little easier for those who do not have as much in this life.
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by Happy-Dance on August 29th, 2009
exactly. I think that, if people would cut their expenses by 10% and help those that are in need...we would be a less lavish, less materialistic people with less people starving in the streets worldwide. If that is a bad thing sharp...please tell me how.
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by Spengo on August 29th, 2009
well i agree we should all give at least 10% to the needy
but will that help them really
the poor i see often
smoke ( in the muslim world indonesia)
drink (in non muslim contries)
do drugs
have lots of big electonics on credit (western poor)
60% tax is the normal ratio in most western countries
At the time of the gods there was no gouvement tax or may be little .
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by sharpjwe on August 30th, 2009
Where did you get your 60% stat? Site your sources. In the US I believe that the highest income tax level is 35% and that's only for people that make over 150K per year.
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by Spengo on August 30th, 2009
i not mention only direct tax
that is around 20% and we have VAT 20%
plus house and land and others for 20%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_as_percentage_of_GDP
is for the tax ratio per GDP gives you a good idea
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by sharpjwe on August 30th, 2009
The USA on the link you gave is 28.3%, how is that close to 60?
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by Spengo on August 30th, 2009
yes.i do remember when the horn of africa was going through that horrible famine in the 80's....all of the children were sitting around a big screen t.v with their ipods...while mom opened a bottle of rum and lit a cigarette.. while in the background they were burying the thousands that died from lack of food that day....sharpwe...you have no idea what kind of poverty exists in this world..and yes every little does does help
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by Happy-Dance on August 31st, 2009
i lived 33 years in 77 counties for my job
i have lived amongst the poor
so that i do know
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by sharpjwe on September 2nd, 2009
33 years in 77 countries? You spent 5 months in each country and you somehow understand the plight of the people? You saw suffering...you don't know suffering.
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by Spengo on September 2nd, 2009
also, USA on your list was 28.3%, where did you get 60%?
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by Spengo on September 2nd, 2009
i am european
we pay 60% taxes
this covers all social and pensions
but you pay 28%
plus social security insurence and pensions
so close enought again
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by sharpjwe on September 3rd, 2009
some countries 7 years indonesia
some otheres a week on visit
i have seen a lot but not all
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by sharpjwe on September 3rd, 2009
USA on your list was 28.3%, where did you get 60%?
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by Spengo on September 3rd, 2009
are you thick
i said in europe we pay 60 %
you pay close to that 28 + social + pentions
well your sys tem is bankrupt now and you need to pay
70% to pay your debt back at least
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by sharpjwe on September 4th, 2009
You said it was 60% in the west...I'll cut and paste it for you....60% tax is the normal ratio in most western countries. No one pays 60% of their check back in to taxes here. We don't pay in 70% to pay back the debt either. Don't say things like "are you thick" when you clearly are the one that doesn't know what you are talking about.
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by Spengo on September 4th, 2009
dont worry spengo..if the messiah of the democratic party Lord Obama gets all hisprograms passed we will be paying 60%...but that is just a snap at his majesty obama..
Sharpwe....my husband was raised in el salvadore until he was 13...his first pair of shoes (that were so tighthe had to cut out the front panel) did not touch his feet till he was 6 and started school..he lived on rice..sometimes with a small amount of vegtables..mostly not..he started helping his grandfather collect milk from neighbors to bring to the dairy to make cheese when he was 4(yes he started working when he was 4)...but his family never tasted the cheese because it cost too much....he was bitten on the bottom of his feet twice by scorpions before he was 13..both time they just put him in bed and prayed..and after a couple of days the paralysis in his feet and legs subsided...AND HE WAS BETER OFF THAN MANY OF THE FAMILIES IN SAN MIGUEL THAT HAS EVEN LESS THAN HIM....
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by Happy-Dance on September 4th, 2009
Don't worry about sharp...he contradicts himself so much, having a debate with him is like listening to Obama debate obama.
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by Spengo on September 4th, 2009
I will say it again..you have no idea what kind of poverty exsist in the world...infants die because there mother can not make enough milk to feed them..children are forced to scavenge for food and scraps to sell for food as soon as they learn to walk..woman prostitute themselves to tourist in countries where welfare does not exists..because they would rather do that then watch their children starve...we have failed as a world to take care of people..FOR AN ARGUMENT TO BE STARTED OVER GODS REQUEST THAT WE PAY A LITTLE TO SUPPORT THE LESS FORTUNATE IS SICKENING TO ME..
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by Happy-Dance on September 4th, 2009
very funny spengo
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by Happy-Dance on September 4th, 2009
yet you pray to god and thank him
for giving you so little
i stated work at 7 years and lived on pasta no meat or egg
better than you family seems but not good for the west
living inall the countries i have seen what you describe
all too often .
the less fortunate should get support for your gods
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by sharpjwe on September 4th, 2009
sharpwe...my husband has a Ph.D in Chemistry from an american university...God gave so little..God gave him everything..if it wasnt for his poor upbringing and his work ethic that was instilled in him when he was a child he wouldnt have his degree today..sharpie darling..your problem is you are so arrogant as to believe you have it all figured out..god isnt what you believe a god should be..therefore he does not exists..THERE IS A REASON FOR EVERYTHING IN GODS PLAN....today my husband does cancer research..if he didnt grow up exactly the way he did chances are this would not of happened..do not pretend to knowwhy things are the way they are...AND LUCKY YOU PASTA EVERYDAY!!!.You had food everyday and havethe nerve to complain..i wonder how many dead children were buried today that would of loved a little pasta with no meat or eggs everyday...I am unsubscribing, mainly because this conversation has gone on too long..and you are too dense to realize that you do not have all the answers..
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by Happy-Dance on September 5th, 2009

It's me - you. My opinion is the same as Spengo.
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by Theby on November 1st, 2008
Theby is as brainwashed as Spengo. She converted for the love of a man so this makes her more pathetic than S. She doesnt read the k herself but believes whatever another believing Muslim tells her...poor thing.
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by Mystical on November 3rd, 2008
Love you trolls. Keep going.
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by Theby on November 3rd, 2008
any muslim that truley believes their religion is correct will get more respect from me than anyone who believes 1) because thats what their hubby believes 2) changes their scripture to suit their needs 3) believes without true study..and it doesnt take a month..if you believe after deep study.and truley know all facets of islam..god bless, god gave us all free will...but i see so many muslims that will fight with their last breathe to defend islam without even understanding 10% of what they are fighting for
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by Happy-Dance on November 3rd, 2008
exactly cathy..Theby can only resort to insult because she doesnt know how to answer the hard questions.
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by Mystical on November 3rd, 2008
thats the way i feel, but i think it goes deeper, i think it is a self defense mechanism...I think she is trying to convince herself that she believes in something she doesnt
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by Happy-Dance on November 3rd, 2008
why one need deep study to understand?
how could not any god make religion simple
all have been arguing and killing in the names of their respective gods for 3500 for jews 2000 yeas christians and 1450 for muslims.
i have seen all religions in india too and still fail to find 2 humans with the same understanding but we all know 1+1=2
where god really intelligent he could have made a foolproof book
that is not the case
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by sharpjwe on November 4th, 2008

AND TRAVELERS...FORGOT THAT ONE.BACK IN THE DAY WE DID NOT HAVE TRAINS AND CARS AND SUCH...SO TRAVELING WAS A BIG DEAL
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by Happy-Dance on November 3rd, 2008
yes to go to mecca
they should go on camel back
not plane
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by sharpjwe on August 10th, 2009

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