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by Dmitri on October 4th, 2008

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Kingdom Hearts fans, do you have any ideas about how the new game "Birth by Sleep" fits in with the KH1, Chain of Memories, and KH2?

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  • by Becca on November 11th, 2008

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    i dont know but im exited

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  • by Dmitri on October 4th, 2008

    Dmitri

    Well, since I asked for the opinions and/or theories of others, and have yet to get a single one, I will toss my theory out there for those who may see it later, or even now, as you read it, O precious few, that you are. (smiles)

    I did a bit of thinking, and this is how I explained it to myself, and I think it is at least a decent theory. When Sora hit himself with that dark keyblade, turning himself into a heartless and creating his nobody, Roxas, he also created another being when he fell asleep courtesy of the snare laid by Namine in Castle Oblivion.

    Here's the logic about the heartless, nobodies, and chasers, or at least here is my logic. A kingdom hearts individual, possibly only keyblade bearers, which does include Riku and Kairi, is a "somebody". When he or she becomes/creates/releases his or her heartless, a nobody is formed to counterbalance the heartless, for two halves make a whole person.

    However, once one half reverts back from heartless, as Sora did, courtesy of Kairi in the lobby of Hollow Bastion, and that same half begins to slumber, another "somebody" is born, hence the title of the psp game, "Birth by Sleep".

    Just for reading this far, I will give you a bit more info that is at least plausible. I know a bit of the psp game, and there are three characters that mirror Sora, Kairi, and Riku, and they are, in respect to the parallel, Ven, Aqua, and Terra, the last of which Sora can fight in the Japan only game, Kingdom Hearts 2 plus, provided the game is maxed out.

    The parallel with the names is this. Sora's name is linked to the air, hence the scrambling of the word "Soar", while Kairi is linked to water and Riku to earth, much like how Goofy is also earth and donald water, hence the color of his clothes.

    Ultimately, I believe Sora is responsible for at least two members of Organization 13, one of which turned on the organization and the other was wiped out, I believe in the coup expounded upon in chain of memories.

    This second as yet unamed nobody, I believe, is Vexen, for, in my theory, Sora created "Ven" when he slept, for he ceased to be a somebody, hence the creation of another somebody somewhere else. Ven joined Xehanort and at least inadvertently created his heartless and possibly unbeknownst to even him, his nobody, Vexen.

    BONUS. Xehanort created Master Xehanort when he created his heartless whom he called "Ansem" as well as his nobody, the final boss of KH2, Xemnas. I believe that chasers are the dark and most powerful forms of the kingdom hearts characters, as evidenced by the wicked sweet trailer that showcased the aforementioned trio battling Master Xehanort alongside as yet unamed stooge. Thanks for reading!

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  • by sufiza_rocks on March 9th, 2011

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    Well. Kingdom Hearts BBS is the prequel, showing the events that happen before the events in KH. Ven, Terra and Aqua battle against Master Norton (Xehanort.) and Vanitas, and thus comes a chain of events: Ven loses his heart in his victory against Vanitas, the X-Blade shatters, Terra and Master Norton merge into Terra-Xehanort, and Aqua saves him by sending him out of the Realm of Darkness along with her Keyblade and Armor, but that means she's stuck in the darkness herself with only Eraqus's Keyblade.

    That's why in the secret ending, they all say Sora's name. The secret ending (Blank Points) happens after KHII which is why they show the KHII form of Sora and co. In KHIIFM+, Sora can fight Terra's discarded armor (Named the Lingering Sentiment) as a really tough optional boss. But he doesn't know that's Terra's feelings in the armor yet.

    Ven doesn't do much, but what he does counts a lot. He was in a way responsible for Snow White's coma (WHO ASKED THAT IDIOT TO GIVE BACK THE APPLE?!) and he defeated Vanitas during their metaphysical battle, but lost his heart and fell into a coma in the process.

    Aqua does a lot. She's the only one of the trio to become a Keyblade Master, destroys the X-Blade along with Ven, sends Terranort out of the Realm of Darkness, gets stuck there in the process, and changes the ruined Land of Departure into Castle Oblivion, keeping Ven's body there safe.

    Terra... well.

    Anyways, Master Norton will return soon. His Nobody (Xemnas) and his Heartless (Xehanort's Heartless) were both defeated, thus bringing the return of Master Norton. That's why Sora and Riku must undergo a Mark of Mastery, so they can defeat Master Norton.

    There is a WTFSHIT difficult secret boss in KHBBS (Located in the ruined Land of Departure) called Mysterious Figure, or Unknown. Nobody knows who he is, but some say he's Xemnas, or Ansem, or someone from the future. Regardless, there's a possibility that he's important to the storyline.

    So as you can see, there are still unanswered questions regarding the plot still, about the Keyblade War, Master Norton, the fate of the Birth by Sleep trio, Keyblades, and lots more. Hopefully in the upcoming games (KHIII and KH3D: Dream Drop Distance) we'll get our answers. Well, my hands hurt now. Hope this answers your questions. :)

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