what kind of tree was the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of eden?

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• my point exactly,,after you cum,, you feel that shame, that shame they felt,, the tree was sex and that after shame feeling...

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  by hosadoo on December 21st, 2011

• Yes it was. That's why they made fig leaf bikinis, and covered their private parts!

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  by Snatchsquach on December 21st, 2011

• Question... have you ever read the account?
  
  
  God commanded the couple to have sex prior to their eating of the tree, so sex was NOT the sin commited...
  
  The sin was willfull disobedience to a clear and direct order...
  
  Later Esau sold his birth right (Spiritual Privilage) for a mere meal of lentiles....
  
  Even later the Israelites wanted to forsake God and return to Egypt for all the 'Wonderful foods' they enjoyed in Egypt...
  
  Jesus was even tempted by Satan to make food out of Rocks... but did not yeild as Adam and Even did...
  
  The Sin was not sex, as Sex was the measn by which God planned to fill the Earth with humans... There is nothing wrong with Sex as is outlined in the Bible by Gods Standards (Marriage, One Partner)
  
  The SIn was willfull disobedience in an attempt to be equal with God... Independance...

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  by letusreason1234 on December 21st, 2011

• The reason they felt a shameful feeling about their genitalia was because they had ruined their purpose for them...
  
  
  If they had procreated prior to sinning they would have produced perfect children that would not die, as was their purpose...
  
  Once they sinned, every child they produced was born with a terminal illness called Sin (Romans 5:12) and would die...
  
  They were now corrupted, and so were their reproductive powers that were once perfect...
  
  They felt shame... It would be similar if you were pregnant and found out you had AIDS that would definitly be contracted to your child... You might feel dirty and shamefull...

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  by letusreason1234 on December 21st, 2011

• Sex with Lucifer was the sin committed. That she gave birth to Cain, Lucifers offspring, was the beginning of children that would die of sin, instead of the perfect children you speak of.
  Maybe you should read it again.

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  by Snatchsquach on December 21st, 2011

• And then Cain was expelled from the garden, because he was not of the line of Adam. The line had been polluted, by the Old Serpent, to prevent The Messiah from being born later, of pure blood.

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  by Snatchsquach on December 21st, 2011

• lester...you make a good point,,but think of this,,, God kmows the beginning and the end,, therefore he already knew they would (eat) it was just a matter of time.. and even knew they would disobey,, ahead of time,,why would that be a surprise to God,, he knew it was gonna happen before they were even created. am i right,,? so why were we created if he knew we would disobey? was it a bet between Jesus ans lucifer? are we the patsy's to play the game of free will? and wager of the most souls?

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  by hosadoo on December 22nd, 2011

• God did NOT know what Adam and Eve would do... The Bible clearly says that God gave them the choice and wanted them to obey...
  
  No one had sex with Satan... That is silly and NOWHERE in the Scriptures...
  
  Cain was not expelled for not being of Adam... He was of Adam...
  
  Cain was expelled for Killing Able...
  
  If a materialized Angel mates with a human it would create a Nephalim... Read Genesis 6...
  
  Half and Half Angel/Humans become giants and are very violent by nature...
  
  Cain was not a giant... He was a human bore from Adma and Eve...
  
  GEN 4:1 And the man knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man with `the help of' Jehovah

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  by letusreason1234 on December 23rd, 2011

• Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44
  
  Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's rightous. John 3:12
  
  I take it literally, what ever the bible tells me. But you say God did not know what Adam and Eve would do, so you are saying that God is not omniscient? No thank you. I know where you have received your bible training.
  
  
  
  

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  by Snatchsquach on December 23rd, 2011

• Why are you ignoring what that Bible acctually says? Read this about ten times over very slowly and tell me WHO the Bible says Cains Biological Father and Mother are...
  
  GEN 4:1 And ADAM knew EVE his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man with `the help of' Jehovah
  
  Adam had sex with Eve (HIS WIFE!) and she concived Cain...
  
  If Cain were born from Satan having Sex with her then the above verse would be wrong....

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  by letusreason1234 on December 26th, 2011

• All Humans Did Not Come From Adam and Eve, as you believe. You have either been duped, or you are trying to dupe others, but you will get nowhere with me. I know the truth, and you are wrong. This will be my last post on the matter.
  
  Despite the obvious facts, there are those universalists who insist all humans came from Adam and Eve.
  
  Here are the facts:
  
  1. Adam and Eve had two sons: Cain, fathered by the Seducer, the devil, and Abel. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfecundation )
  
  2. Cain, a murderer from the beginning, slew Abel. If what the universalists claim is true, then that left only Adam, Eve and Cain.
  
  3. Cain was concerned that "everyone that findeth me," call them what you will, would slay him, as he had committed the first murder. He would be the only one on the Most Wanted List of that time. Cain, with the promise given him by Yahweh, that no one would touch him, then went out from the presence of Adam and Eve and married a wife and built a city.
  
  12When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
  
  13And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
  
  14Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
  
  15And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
  
  16And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
  
  17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
  
  Where did this wife come from? Where did these people come from for which a city was built?
  
  Some want us to believe that one the future daughters (after at least 130 years) of Adam and Eve married Cain, who in fact would have been the murderer of her brother. Does anyone truly believe that one of the sisters of Abel would marry and have the children of their brother's murderer?
  
  4. After Cain has children and builds this city, Scripture tells us that Adam and Eve had another son, Seth, but when they had lived 130 years, whose name means replacement, replacing Abel. Notice, at this time, there are no daughters. Daughters came later. Adam and Eve lived hundreds of years and many years after Genesis 4, they had other sons and daughters. But not before Cain left the presence of the Lord and settled east of Eden.
  
  25And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
  
  26And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
  
  Genesis 5 1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
  
  2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
  
  3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
  
  And Seth is recorded has having a son, named Enos and not a daughter. So, where did all these women come from from which the cities were filled?
  
  Obviously, there were "people" on the earth that were not derived from Adam and Eve. These non-Adamites are referred to as the "beasts of the field" and are the beasts with whom the fallen angels procreated with.
  
  Denying this is like having your house destroyed by a tornado and standing in the rubble, you say there was no storm.

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  by Snatchsquach on December 26th, 2011

• Genesis 4:1 outright says that Adam and Eve are the Biological parents of Cain...
  
  Recall also the flood... God ONLY Spared 8 people through it... Noah and his family....
  
  None of the 8 people who survived the flood were of Cain's Line... Only Seths...

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  by letusreason1234 on December 27th, 2011

• Genesis: Chapter 6:1
  
  "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants [nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
  
  The passage "and also after that" refers to a time after the flood, when an unspecified form of Nephilim or fallen angels once again took an interest in human women. These are not the same as those nephilim who did this before the flood however, as they are imprisoned. The result of these later unions were the Canaanite and other "giants" of the Old Testament, such as those mentioned in the Book of Numbers and elsewhere: "`And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim); and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.' Then all the congregation raised a loud cry; and the people wept that night." (Numbers Chapter 13 verse 33)

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  by Snatchsquach on December 27th, 2011

• @snatchquach, your answer and subsequent comments sounds much the the "Serpent Seed" and "Kenite" doctrines taught by Shepherds Chapel, or at least a variant thereof. In short, for those who do not know what the Serpent Seed Doctrine is, it's the teaching that in the Garden of Eden, the serpent (the devil) had sexual relations with Eve. The result was that she bore Cain. The descendants of Cain are called Kenites. Abel, however, is the result of Adam and Eve having relations.
  
  The Serpent Seed doctrine is an unscriptural and unfortunate teaching. From it is derived an "us against them" mentality in which anyone who disagrees with Arnold Murray can easily be accused of being a Kenite. Anyone that has knowledge of the Bible and who has common-sense can see that this doctrine is a heresy. And if you believe it and embrace it, you are ignoring the clear teaching of Scripture.

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  by ""Account Closed"" on December 28th, 2011