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Well...A lot of historians would disagree with your claim. Try subtracting A LOT less bigotry when you make a statement. Show some good logos and pathos.
by TSWP777 on May 24th, 2010
you first http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
by The Anonymous Witch on May 24th, 2010
Bigotry? There's nothing wrong with what TAW said. Creationists in general will jump bridges in order to prove that their god exists; what makes you think that they wouldn't do something as insignificant as claiming God cured them?
When creationists pray and something good happens, they give credit to God. When creationists pray and nothing happens, they shrug and say, "Oh well, it must be part of God's plan".
One way you can directly see if praying works is to cut off any patients that wish to pray to god from modern life support, THEN see if the "magical hand of god" can cure that patient of his illness.
All of this nonsense is Grade-A, steaming bullshit.
by 404 on May 26th, 2010
maybe TSWP777 doesn't have history books where he is . lol.
by The Anonymous Witch on May 26th, 2010
TAW evil bible is just like the website "god hates fags" just no life atheist/religious bigots who have nothing to do with their life's but make things out of context and pretty lie much about everything. I'm not an atheist, neither a religious prick.
by TSWP777 on May 26th, 2010
none the less .. those bible quotes are actually in the bible .
the site may be onesided ,, but the content is true.
but hers's some history for you .
the whole jesus story was stolen form the egyptian god horus .
---jesus and horus comparisons ---
Conception: j= By a virgin.- horus= By a virgin.
Father: Horus- Only begotten son of the God Osiris.
jesus; Only begotten son of Yehovah (in the form of the Holy Spirit).
Mother: Horus =isis-Meri. jesus = Miriam (now often referred to as Mary).
Foster father:Horus= Seb, (a.k.a. Jo-Seph). jesus= Joseph.
Foster father's ancestry: j= Of royal descent. h= Of royal descent.
Birth location: h=In a cave. j=In a cave or stable.
Annunciation: h= By an angel to Isis, his mother. j=By an angel to Miriam, his mother.
Birth heralded by: h=The star Sirius, the morning star. j=An unidentified "star in the East."
Birth date: Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at
the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human.
jesus =Born during the fall. However, his birth date is now celebrated on DEC-25.a pagan holiday
Birth announcement:h= By angels. j= By angels.
Birth witnesses: j= Shepherds. h = Shepherds.
Later witnesses to birth: h-Three solar deities. j= 3 wise men.
Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Herod tried to have Jesus murdered.
Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus' mother "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child."
An angel tells Jesus' father to: "Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."
Rite of passage ritual: Horus came of age with a special ritual, ---
jesus was Taken by parents to the temple for what is today called a bar mitzvah ritual.
Age at the ritual: j=12 h=12
Break in life history: h= No data between ages of 12 & 30.
j= No data between ages of 12 & 30.
Baptism location: h= In the river Eridanus.
j= In the river Jordan.
Age at baptism: h=30. j =30.
Baptized by: h= Anup the Baptiser. j=John the Baptist, a.k.a. John the Baptist.
Subsequent fate of the baptiser: h= Beheaded. j= Beheaded
by The Anonymous Witch on May 26th, 2010
hanging on the cross ..B.S.
The Latin cross" was not a part of Christianity until the 7th century and not fully acknowledged until the 9th century. Primitive churches preferred to represent the nazarene with the lamb. The lamb, by the way is another stolen symbol. The sacrificial lamb of Easter is represented by the sign of Aries the Ram." (which begins on March 21st of every year). The Lamb was also carried by Hermes and Osiris." In addition, Odin, Krishna, Marsyas, Dodonian and Zeus also hung from trees. Set was “crucified” on a “cross” known as a furka The cross was originally equal-armed and is the shape of thehuman soul. As the 5 elements of paganism . it was also later most likely in the shape of a capital T WITH NO top . this was more practical . But this is what happens when you steal stories from other faiths and older practices ,You can’t get your story right . They couldn’t even get the nails through the hands part right . in reality it went through the wrists ..The hand would tear through and not be able to support the weight . And,,, to toss another hat in the ring …(Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a TREE I Peter 2:24 "24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on theTREE, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.") Buddha sat beneath a tree and experienced a rebirth, kind of ressurection. LOL . THEY SAY IT WAS A *TREE* HERE ..
JUST more proof of a stolen story .. from where , you might ask ???
---Other Gods who were crucified or executed that predated jesus are as follows;-
Krishna of India, 1200 BCE
Buddha, 600 BCE.
Tammuz of Syria, 1160 BCE
Wittoba of the Telingonese, 552 BCE
Iao of Nepal, 622 BCE Iao is often spelt "Jao" sound familiar? This is the root of the hebrew god "Jehova."
Hesus of the Celtic Druids, 834 BCE. Note the similarity of "Hesus" with "Jesus."
Quetzacoatl of Mexico 587 BCE
Quirinus of Rome 506 BCE
Prometheus 547 BCE "In the account of the crucifixion of Prometheus of Caucasus, as furnished by Seneca, Hesiod and other writers, it is stated that he was nailed to an upright beam of timber to which were affixed extended arms of wood, and that this cross was situated near the Caspian Straits."
Thulis of Egypt, 1700 BCE
Indra of Tibet, 725 BCE
Alcestos of Euripedes, 600 BCE
Atys of Phrygia, 1170 BCE
Crite of Chaldea, 1200 BCE
Bali of Orissa, 725 BCE
Mithra of Persia, 600 BCE
by The Anonymous Witch on May 26th, 2010
the trinity ????
whose Trinity ????????????????
all these they stole the idea from ??
THE NUMEROUS TRINITIES:
• Anu, Enlil and Ea- the Christian .
• Bel-Saturn, Jupiter-Bel, and Baal-Chom.
• Brahma, Vishnu and Siva
• Mithra, Varuna and Indra
• Jupiter, Juno and Minerva
• Osiris, Isis, and Horus
• Three-bodied goddess Hecate
• Three-headed Scylla
• Triune divinities of the Cabiri.
• Three-headed Dog, Cerberus
• Judaism, xianity and Islam (the three religions of monotheism)
• Taoism: the trinity San Qing (Three Pure Gods). Yu Qing (Jade Pure) Shang Qing (Upper Pure) and Tai Qing (Great Pure)
• Monju Bosatsu, Fugen Bosatsu and the historical Buddha called the "Shaka Trinity" (SHAKA SANZON)
• Ka ( Spirit or Ether), Ba ( Body), and the Ankh (Immortality)
• Tamas (Stability) Sattwa (orderliness) Rajas (Restlessness) from the "Guna" Sanskrit translation
• Artemis, Aphrodite and Hecate
• Kore, Persephone and Demeter
• Shen (Spirit), C'hi (Vitality) and Ching (Essence) the three treasures of Taoist Wai Tai (internal alchemy)
• Alpha, Omega and Iota
• The Devil's Trident
by The Anonymous Witch on May 26th, 2010
i'm a witch with issues , do you really want to get me started ." ;-)
there's the first rack of ribs i was talking about . ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on May 26th, 2010
TSWP777, I have a lot of problems with the way you think a discussion should go.
You start by saying TAW is a bigot, and that is actually all you do besides TRYING to be clear on your own personal beliefs.
BTW you are an agnost. There is an old chinese saying for people like you: if you keep standing on one leg because you cannot decide where to put the other, you´ll be standing still your entire life.
Please refrain from unfounded name-calling. I cannot take that from someone as dumb as you.
by Temporary Name on May 27th, 2010
1. I am NOT agnostic. 2. Christ IS The Father, The Son, and the holy spirit. 3. Christ died for OUR sins, did horus die for yours? 4. yeah i might of bite off a little more than i can chew. 5. yeah calling you a bigot will not help. 6. Christ a.k.a God wrapped himself in flesh, did horus do so? I could keep going on and on and on about how Christianity is no where near paganism. Besides I believe that all other religions stole ever thing from Christianity. One more thing I'm going to need way more proof. (don't refer me to websites please}
by TSWP777 on May 28th, 2010
lol... yep ,, there's logic .. a group that existed 1000's of years before christianity was invented .. stole from christianity. lol
did they do this with a time machine ??? did they wait till christianity was "invented " and jump back 1000's of years to start their faith and belief system ? .
every " christian holiday is pagan in origin .. did they steal these with time machines too ?
(don't refer you to websites )??? .. ok ,, go to a library and read some history books .
by The Anonymous Witch on May 28th, 2010
There goes the sarcasm i was expecting........
by TSWP777 on May 29th, 2010
well you don't want to be refered to websites ,,, so what ,, ?
did you want me to write out and copy all of the history of man and post it here ?.. send you books by ups ?.. take you on a field trip ? ?
by The Anonymous Witch on May 29th, 2010
Christianity is younger than the other religions mentioned. TSW how would you explain their ability to steal these concepts from something prior to it's being created?
by ConservativelyLiberal on May 30th, 2010
I think theres one thing thats wrong. My wording when i say Christianity i meant Judaism to Christianity. You know, the Hebrews, old testament stuff. TAW just because it's in a history book doesn't make it right. There's "Point of view" then there's "opinion". Your history books will be "point of view" within "opinion" therefore no matter what i read or who tells me what, my point of view will always disagree. I hope that you can respect that, if you can't well theres no reason to go on with this. Now i understand your "point of view" but i do not believe it.
by TSWP777 on June 1st, 2010
TSW the religions mentioned are OLDER than the OT.
by ConservativelyLiberal on June 1st, 2010
tsw ,, you said "" no matter what i read or who tells me what, my point of view will always disagree"""
i find that hard to believe ,because someone told you the stuff that you believe now .
and ps .. didn't you start this thread out with this
""" Well...A lot of historians would disagree with your claim""".
either way ,, at least you know there are 2 sides to consider now .
that gives you more to investagate and and work with to help you decide for yourself.
but as i said .. don't leave a comment and not expect a reply ;-)
especially from me ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on June 1st, 2010
Now Anon what religion came first? That what i think is the BIG picture. Yeah, but when someone told me what i believe didn't just accept it I looked up things for myself and was spirtiually convicted. I do have something to think about, but the main point of the Gospel is way different than the main point of paganism I'm sure of that. The gospel=Jesus Christ. What is the main message of paganism anyway?
by TSWP777 on June 4th, 2010
paganism is a broad word and includes many religions . but i think we bothe agree that you are asking about witches , wiccans and neopagans types ,..
the main message / or focus is different for many . most hold the earth and the elements in high regard . some worship nature itself .. some ascribe a god or goddess figure to define and personalize the male and female aspects of nature . and the universe . some only do the craft or witchcraft as a practice with no "religion" involved .
the main message for all ,most would agree is the 3 fold law .
""ever mind the rule of 3 ,
what ye sends out,
comes back times 3 "
"eight words the rede forfill ,
an ye harm none do what thy will."
basicly saying what goes around , comes around .
(i'm sure you have said or heard that before ) .
what you do ,good or bad will come back to you 3 fold .
so it is best to be good .
it is its own deterant and own reward .
by The Anonymous Witch on June 4th, 2010
TSW The jewish faith is not as old as paganism. Paganism was here FIRST. Therefore Paganism could NOT have stolen anything from the Jewish.
by ConservativelyLiberal on June 4th, 2010
jesus christ was a sorcerer just like in the pagan stories. He could heal the sick, walk one water, pull food out of his arse. The story about Jesus isn´t original and it isn´t the first version..
by Temporary Name on June 5th, 2010
Horus as flesh:
Horus lived on earth in human flesh form as a king. He is considered the god of self-sacrifice.
Thats pretty much stolen. He is the God of the Sun. See that big shiney circle behind jesus's head in those pictures?
Now who are you really worshipping?
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on June 5th, 2010
Did you know that Korishna stole the story from Horus? Jesus isn't even the first imposter to the throne. In fact there were about 8 "gods sons" between Horus and Jesus. And I doubt Horus was even the first of his ilk.
by ConservativelyLiberal on June 5th, 2010
Krishna didn't have a connection to Horus, I believe he was and an Avatar of a greater god that was an avatar of the supreme god. Also he died with an arrow to his foot, fired by accident by a hunter. He wasn't dropping a sacrifice. There is no mention of his birth parents being gods, nor virgins. He was the 14th child to survive, a king killed all his siblings at birth, he had been told the child would overthrow his kingdom and be a great king. (Herod anyone?)
This is said to be around 500-2000 BC.
This is the story they tell in India anyway. There are several Jesus beings before the AD guy. The AD guy is also a merging of many older stories.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on June 5th, 2010
I learned something today! Thanks TAW but um aotat what the hell, in the bible Christ was NOT a sorcerer. But think of this TAW when (if you believe) in the Bible it says that when God made adam and eve and they left eden other families started and didn't follow the belief of God so i think that's when like paganism might of started
(tell me if im incorrect) could that be a possiblity?
by TSWP777 on June 10th, 2010
no . pagans were around long before christian con artists invented a lame creation story to make it look like they were first .. a story that could have used alot more work , when you consider adam and eve had 3 kids ...ALL BOYS!!!. if you want to base your existance on sex with mom .. so be it . but we would all be mindless inbread blobs by now with the genetic breakdown.
i have also always wondered why pictures of adam and eve have belly buttons .. if they were made of mud and a rib.
;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on June 11th, 2010
The nearest thing I've found to the creation of human conciousness is Buddhism, for the biology I'll stick to genetics.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on June 11th, 2010
Well, I guess we are on "two separate wave-lengths". See I really cannot believe that Christians are con-artists and the inbred thing i cannot explain. But your entitled to your view but i think we can just come to an agreement that you believe what you believe and I believe what I believe and just leave it at that.
by TSWP777 on June 17th, 2010
Just because you choose not to believe what's in front of your eyes, doesn't make it any less true TSW. Hopefully one day you'll be willing(like I was) to take that first step. It's scary, leaving behind that warm soft blanket of lies, but until you do you'll never truly live.
by ConservativelyLiberal on June 17th, 2010
I can't find my self believing in something if any part of me says I don't understand how this bit here works.
The argument you're making is, I'll believe it anyway because its what they told me to believe.
In addition, ask a con artist what the greatest con is. They'll say its the one where the person doesn't know they've been conned.
To finish:
"You can't fool all the people all of the time, but if you fool the right ones, then the rest will fall in line"
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on June 17th, 2010
Here's an easy explanation to what TSW believes.
by 404 on June 17th, 2010
lol .
by The Anonymous Witch on June 18th, 2010
Wow seriously cut down on the bigotry though. Everyone likes to say that many things were copied from paganism but Prayer??? COme on as if Jews never existed!! come on. There were Pagans even in Jewish Times and guess what The jews killed them.HAHAHAHAHA! i for one am a christian who doesnt mind being an asshole. so please dont judge my religion for my actions as many like to do with the crusaders.
They destroyed the Asherah pools and the worshippers of Baal . HAHAHA i love my "genocidal" GOD He is all Knowing. After all if you fools read your bible you will see that even the People that GOd ordered the Jews to kill came from one of the lineages of Abrahams seed. so Yes go ahead and say God killed his own creation after all he made the flood happen whats new?? how about thinking outside the GodHater box people?!, and learn Gods attributes. HE is Sovereign., MEaning he can do whatever He wants. Whos to say all those people he allowed to be killed are in Hell, after all Its His will and His his will which allowed the killings to occur.For a reason He allowed it to be Abrahams Line so that no one can claim that GOd killed their people in the past and who are we to discern his ways. FOr HIs ways are higher than ours. He is way more wise than us. All this, GOd Did to show us to depend on Him He did it to manifest Himself to us To tell us who He is. He did it so we can see Satan is in charge of this world but even though
Satan is in control of this world God still has the power to trun weaklings like the nomadic herding jews into a kingdom and one of the biggest influences in human history. To manifest His power in those who are weak, for while satan relies on Extortion violence, lying, corruption, greed, lustful desires, covetousness(hmm i see a pattern here, maybe its called sin?)to rule His Kingdom, God shows his power in that if He could give outcasts and weaklings(in a worldly sense) victory over their foes, then just imagine If GOd used all of HIs power. But you know what HE does instead, he has patience and gives us a chance to get to know Him out of our own free will. HOw? through Jesus Christ. He already said Christ is coming back and then all hell is gonna break loos. As far as the other trinities, they might be real, butt they are only carefully crafted imitations of the real trinity, and even if it was originally crafted by satan God one upped Him in his version called the HOLY trinity wher nJesus could claim He is Lord of Lords with authority.
I would like to see Horeb or Osiris claim that. Oh wait, They couldntTheyre not real GOds. HAHAHAHAHA God would not allow it. HE knew this would exist But neither feared nor trembled Because HE ALone IS GOd. ALL those other trinities and Gods claiming to be the one are nothng but fakes inspired by Satan trying to mess up GOds Plan. Theyre illusions just like the Snakes Pharaohs magicians made against Abrahams staff. they are nothing but illusions made to look like the real thing, After ALl Only The Creator Can Create Creatures Only the Creator Can make dead things come to life as in breathing Life into dust to create man. as in making Abrahams staff become a real snake. God showed his superiority in making abrahams snake eat those of the sorcerers. Satan can only Mimic.
by BeanandCheesewithKetchup on July 5th, 2010
What a load of crap. Can I have that 3 minutes and 11 seconds of my life back please?
by ConservativelyLiberal on July 5th, 2010
wow - so sad to see the damage of social programming and brain washing to that extent .
by The Anonymous Witch on July 6th, 2010
It was Moses staff that ate the sorcerers' snakes. This is despite the fact that the Egyptians have no recollection of the first born in their empire dying. Must not have been that important. Way to spew though.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on July 6th, 2010
Believe it or not Christianity has been difficult for me to follow here and there. But Christianity is not some "warm" or "brainwashed" way of living. Christianity test's you to take a step out for Christ and His legacey. It teaches you and tells you things that over 75% of the world would disagree on. It took a little while for me to execpt the message of the Bible. But I can promise that once you see what i see you might be able to understand. Now from having friends of opposite beliefs you being to develop a better understanding of atheism, buddism, satanism, and/or paganism. "A foolish man will rebuke wisdom, you can speak wisdom to a wise man and he will still be wiser, but a just man will always increase in learning" Proverbs. That's what I do I increase in learning, but believing in what he or she or this or that is totally different and depends on the way you feel inside and towards people and the culture around you.
by TSWP777 on July 12th, 2010
lol .. "once you see what i see you might be able to understand".
actually , once YOU get to that point of understanding , YOU will see what we see .
many atheists know the bible and the religion better than theists themselves . you can't deny that we have even taught you things in this thread ;-) .
by The Anonymous Witch on July 12th, 2010
Warm in the sense that the answers to life are provided rather than sought.
Brainwashed for the same reason.
You will have more than 75% disagree with you, Christian theologists (the ones that really study the bible) can't even agree with themselves.
Finally the idea that you have to believe something to understand it may make it feel real, but if you look into the psychology of witness statements we alter our surroundings to suit our beliefs.
Therefore physical evidence is the only reliable evidence and in this case leads away from Christianity.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on July 13th, 2010
yep...
by The Anonymous Witch on July 13th, 2010
anon: cute picture!!
TSW: how so not a sorcerer?
He walked on water
He turned water into wine
He healed sick people by just touching them
He came back to life after being killed.
He did better magic shit then Merlin did in his days..
by Temporary Name on July 13th, 2010
i have actually seen a depiction of christ in a christian painting that showed jesus with a magic wand .
from their early "can't beat em , join em" attempts .. which turned to , can't beat em ,,, copy em " . ;-)
the vatican has since destroyed the painting.
but another version of it was found in a temple cave .
i believe it to was "destroyed " .
by The Anonymous Witch on July 13th, 2010
Well magic in the eyes of the Bible is "devils power". But the miracles can't not been explained through eyes of a non-believer or any other religion. That's why the works of God are in the Bible. The Bible is the only book that can explain it. Now the con-artist thing, I going to souly disagree with I have a relationship with Christ(rather you believe me or not) so everytime you bring up the con thing I'm just going to see it as bliss. Are we going to have a nice conversation on this or do we have to keep being immature? Cause I am kinda enjoying TAW's input and vision on religion so far.
by TSWP777 on July 17th, 2010
devils power eh ? lol .. the devil is a christian deity , from their storybook , he is even from heaven .
even devil worshipers , i would consider a branch of christianity .
witches do not even believe in the devil at all .
by The Anonymous Witch on July 17th, 2010
TSWP777
From a psychology point of view I find your comments very interesting.
Not saying you're crazy, psychology effects us all. I'm guessing you grew up with Christ. So when you are left to deal with the trauma of the bible not being real, you find solace, that this drastic alteration in your life need not happen, in a connection.
You have found comfort in this in hard times, I'm guessing.
Its like being in a bad relationship. You know it should be over, but something keeps you holding on for fear of losing the comfort.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on July 17th, 2010
damn , that even impressed me .;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on July 17th, 2010
I have my moments. Few and far in between.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on July 17th, 2010
lol .
by The Anonymous Witch on July 17th, 2010
Well, you’re kind of on point LePoupon is a proper gander but it was the opposite in some parts. I feel lots of times that I should leave Christianity and yes I do hold on; but Christianity isn't always as comfortable as I wished it would be. Sometimes I feel compelled to talk to other people about the word of God, but sometimes hesitate because I don't like leaving my comfort zone. In the Bible Jesus says to divide you from yourself and from the world. That’s not the easiest thing to do and it's very challenging. I'm sure you've seen how divided Christianity is, from the Catholics, from Mormons, from Protestants, from Lutherans and many more. That's because people try to take the Bible and make it fit them more instead of accepting it for what it really is. Jesus evens says Himself that "He is here to bring division" maybe peace would be comfortable but division is defiantly not.
by TSWP777 on July 17th, 2010
yeah , understandable .
let's look at some of jesus's family value quotes ....
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. -Luke 14:26"
"For I am come to SET A MAN AT VARIANCE AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND THE DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND THE DAUGHTER IN LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER IN LAW. And a MAN'S FOES SHALL BE THEY OF HIS OWN HOUSEHOLD.-Matthew 10:35-36"
"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.-Luke 12:51-53"
..and ,,,When a man decided to follow Jesus, he wanted to say goodbye to his family (Luke 9:61), but instead of leniency, Jesus replied to him: ... " a man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God".
And .. jesus says to his own mother,- "Woman, what have I do to with thee?" -John -
doesn't that sound like the words of a cult leader to you ??? .
"join me and remove all outside contact .. you're my family now ."
and gets rid of your family and friends that may try to help you get out . or persuade you to leave .. etc etc ...
if you saw that on the bottom of a boy scouts ad .... would you sign up your kid ?
by The Anonymous Witch on July 17th, 2010
That's totally understandable; and if I did see that on some boy scouts ad I would freak out. But if I may define those scriptures.
Luke 14:26/Matthew 10:35-36 = Well hate is a very dangerous word and so freely said by Jesus, also by saying "hate" he does not souley mean it, because that would contradict "hate is murder in the mind", but before (and I'm sure you probably know this already) Jesus talks about Christians serving Jesus and Him only and how the WHOLE world will turn against them "sheep set up for the slaugther" that includes EVERYONE who does not have the same faith as the Christians do. He basically saying 'choose me over everyone no matter what'. Also there has been many times in wear my parents tell me to do something or talk to me about something that I tell them i will not and/or do not do that and/or believe that. One more thing mary respected Jesus for talking like that to her because even though He came out of her , He is The Father, He is The Holy Spirit, and The Son. So regardless of how it seems on earth she knew what was REALLY going on.
by TSWP777 on July 24th, 2010
cult leader . afraid of you finding the truth .
by The Anonymous Witch on July 24th, 2010
Yeah all cults do use that method.
"You will be hated for following the right way."
It automatically puts animosity between you and anyone who says different. If they contradict the teachings they must hate you so they must be wrong.
The people that put the bible together did it very carefully and they had a lot of previous knowledge controlling people.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on July 25th, 2010
Religion should be taught in psychology and in business school. It's a great example of psychological addiction and mass marketing techniques.
by ConservativelyLiberal on July 25th, 2010
don't forget smear campaigns for the compitition . ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on July 25th, 2010
Politics too, gotcha!
by ConservativelyLiberal on July 25th, 2010
;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on July 25th, 2010
ok....Well....Believe what you want.
by TSWP777 on July 29th, 2010
or not ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on July 29th, 2010
...
JiG!! christians need your faith here!!! :P
(sorry, got no idea why I am doing this..)
by Temporary Name on July 30th, 2010
?? :-}
by The Anonymous Witch on July 30th, 2010
JIG:Jesus is God..Faith whack job.
I guess the JIG is up?
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on July 30th, 2010
humm.. odd comming from him.
by The Anonymous Witch on July 30th, 2010
yeah, sorry. still haven't a clue why I actually did that..
Only reason I can think of is that I can still not fully comprehend that people like JiG really excist..
I wouldn't mind him loosing all communication abilities... (deaf, blind, no hands, no tongue. or just as a vegetable in a hospital bed..)
Sorry for the derailment, I'll shut up from now on..
by Temporary Name on July 30th, 2010
i thought they caught you and put on a mind altering helmet to recruit you . lol .
by The Anonymous Witch on July 30th, 2010
Helmet in which sense.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on July 30th, 2010
a brain bucket with tubes and wires type of thing ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on July 30th, 2010
Oh I thought you meant the end of a penis.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on July 30th, 2010
again sorry.. (not angry in anyway) the (morons) believers start to get to me. sorry for getting all riled on. I know that I know better :) I'll try to contain myself according to that
by Temporary Name on July 30th, 2010
Chill man no ones upset, just confused.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on July 31st, 2010
yaeh , it's all good ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on July 31st, 2010
?
by TSWP777 on August 7th, 2010
can we make it to a hundred?
We only need one more to get to 75!!
by Temporary Name on August 7th, 2010
Keep it on topic though, they'll start deleting stuff.
So yeah, Jesus, good story, not very practical. Why do people have this need to have the world so black and white anyway?
And what was AOTAT on about when he called out for JIG? Was it like an orgasm? Do you have a fetish for crazy people bro?
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on August 7th, 2010
ROFLMAO!! I found the king of rules on AB! I went calling out for JiG because TSWP (or whatever) went kinda silent after saying he felt he had to believe what he believed. So I though, if I scream for JiG it might get interesting again.
You never have a dull debate when JiG is about!
And the black and white comment, there is a lot more to it. They need to be saved, they need to have a live after this because they feel they fucked this one up, they feel they need to punish the succesfull people because they never became "one of them" And everybody needs friends with which they can hate other people.
That's my opinion anyway.
Jig!! where are you!? please come to this wonderfull discussion!
PS le poupon, mighty thanks to you! I'll go change underwear now since the one I am wearing got wet after reading your comment.. :P
by Temporary Name on August 7th, 2010
ROFLMAO!! I found the king of rules on AB! I went calling out for JiG because TSWP (or whatever) went kinda silent after saying he felt he had to believe what he believed. So I though, if I scream for JiG it might get interesting again.
You never have a dull debate when JiG is about!
And the black and white comment, there is a lot more to it. They need to be saved, they need to have a live after this because they feel they fucked this one up, they feel they need to punish the succesfull people because they never became "one of them" And everybody needs friends with which they can hate other people.
That's my opinion anyway.
Jig!! where are you!? please come to this wonderfull discussion!
PS le poupon, mighty thanks to you! I'll go change underwear now since the one I am wearing got wet after reading your comment.. :P
by Temporary Name on August 7th, 2010
Doubling is cheating.
There is more too it, but I hate the idea of all this right and wrong.
Life is so dull when its so plain, the universe is more diverse than that.
JIGs just plain annoying, still there are worse ones out there, met Wraith of God?
So you do have a fetish for crazy people! :O
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on August 7th, 2010
I believe I bumped in to Wraith a couple of times. At least he wasn't really persistent when I argued him.
You're spot on about my crazy people fetish by the way. All of my girlfriends had some mental disorder, it made them really entertaining to be around :D
I wrote a quote of Isaac Asimov which might describe how the world should be viewed.
It was about particle's (fotones and what not) that seemed to behave in at least 8 different ways and how that wasn't strange because we as men also respond differently to different or even the same situation.
A grown man can act a friend, a father, a husband, the kid of parents and if it's required he can even turn into a killer while being the nicest guy on this planet.
Kinda lost the point I was trying to make but I found it a great comparison
by Temporary Name on August 8th, 2010
Yeah that's what I mean, its never linear, its always changing, no two situations are ever exactly the same, so what use is a guideline book.
Crazy girls are always the best in bed, less inhibitions in intimate situations I think.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on August 8th, 2010
WTF. You guys are a very werid group of people. But your never gonna to well in a debate if you look at the opposite point of view through your own eyes. Ok the thing with "JIG" I don't really care for that. Your what in the refers to as "swine" people who don't care what you tell them, how much proof/evidence you have, how wrong they are or their just plain ignorant. Basically I will show you multiple scriptures of what you claim to be a Christian is not! Your saying that "They need to be saved, they need to have a live after this because they feel they fucked this one up, they feel they need to punish the succesfull people because they never became "one of them" And everybody needs friends with which they can hate other people." I mean that makes no since at all and I bet you can't find one verse in the Bible that proves that. Also looking up old jewish laws in the old testasment will only show how much you don't understand.
by TSWP777 on August 11th, 2010
TSWP777 I'm thinking you're just really slow, or can't read anything besides the bible and what you type.
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on August 11th, 2010
bu thanks for giving us something to on.
And le poupon, you're right. My crazy girl came to visit yesterday and she doesn't have inhibitions at all :D
by Temporary Name on August 11th, 2010
PB victim is back ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on August 21st, 2010
Hope you had a lovely holiday!
by Temporary Name on August 28th, 2010
it was worth it . maybe i made a difference in how this site is run now . ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on August 28th, 2010
What? You became a moderator?? :|
by Temporary Name on August 30th, 2010
no . i just made some waves in the AB staff . ended up getting some things done that i was bitching about .
by The Anonymous Witch on August 30th, 2010
witch craft?
by Temporary Name on September 1st, 2010
Star Craft...II
by ConservativelyLiberal on September 1st, 2010
hover craft .;-) no i got pb-ed for bitching about many posts getting deleted without getting checked by AB staff. , some cls agreed with me
and it seems that caused a ripple in the AB staff room . i did get put in the box . but many of my posts and others were reinstated . and they seem less "trigger happy " now . and are actually watching the excess flaggers now too. ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on September 1st, 2010
ohw, wow! so you might actually be responsible for my regaining full acces to AB!
They didn't put me in the penalty box but I was unable of answering questions and adding comments for about a month.
So, big thanks you for sticking out your neck!
by Temporary Name on September 1st, 2010
well there are some new moderators , that some say needed more "training " . if you notice there was ALOT of people in the box this month . your problem may have been a glitch in the system . but i like to think i took one for the team .. at least getting soem posts back, and them taking a second look at their new mods ,, and the flaggers . ;-)
i got PBed for 2 weeks , so i must have pissed someone off .. i was actually talking to a cl in PM when i got pbed .
by The Anonymous Witch on September 1st, 2010
Magic is what you do! Prayers are what you wish the deity to help you in.
by King Arthur Pendragon on December 23rd, 2010
Prayers are just stolen spells. But they needed a way to make the magick less magickal so they said it was god answering prayers.
by ConservativelyLiberal on December 23rd, 2010
;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on December 23rd, 2010
people that pray do not know their history..
by Temporary Name on December 23rd, 2010
Ignorance...
by King Arthur Pendragon on December 23rd, 2010
Irony...
by LePoupon is a proper gander. on December 23rd, 2010
Yes Larendeil you are ignorant. Good of you to notice.
by ConservativelyLiberal on December 23rd, 2010
haha, people can be so funny sometimes. Larendeil, spend some money and go to "religious history 101" It will help you a lot..
by Temporary Name on December 24th, 2010
cake ? ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on December 24th, 2010
We did not only make it, we went over it!! :D
by Temporary Name on December 24th, 2010
Prayer is not even similar to magic, I'll prove the difference.
1. Magic is done by you or wished by your own deity.
2. Prayer is done by one method, begging to God to HELP you, Magic can be done for evil or good.
by King Arthur Pendragon on December 24th, 2010
They're both an attempt to enforce your will on a situation using a power outside your control. They're fundamentally the same. Your position is that Reebok and Nike aren't both shoes because one says Reebok and the other says Nike....
by ConservativelyLiberal on December 24th, 2010
the concept or prayer was copied from spell casting .
- nuff said . ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on December 24th, 2010
Nuff did not said!
by King Arthur Pendragon on December 24th, 2010
by The Anonymous Witch on December 24th, 2010
You mean my brother Nuff? He's on the 9th cloud, after you've taken a left turn straight past 7th heaven. His hobbies are pray casting and spell answering.
Ohw, and he is to hideous to look at.
You mean him, right?
by Temporary Name on December 25th, 2010
Copied? I believe all of catholisism, mormonism and any " Christian " related belief is ALL copied from paganism.. Protestantism.. I don't think so..
by TSWP777 on September 12th, 2011
well , 3 out of four aint bad, .. you get a cookie ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on September 13th, 2011
I just noticed that the question was first asked in 2008...and this answer was answered in May 24th, 2010 and this argument hasn't been settled...as of Sept 14th, 2011 Unless this fight is going somewhere or bringing the joiners personal joy...I suggest agreeing to disagree would move things along... But in my case I'm finding these as a good read... but I skipped a couple of longer answers. I will read them later... at least the original parts. I loved the picture of the praying cat.
by newaccount is now looking for a new name. on September 14th, 2011
i call 3 out of 4.. progress ;-)
it actually was great to come back to this from last dec. and re read it .. ;-)
by The Anonymous Witch on September 14th, 2011