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by Brian I on March 7th, 2008
According to some people there is, but there's a bigger link between not being vaccinated and death.
by Penal Colony is wicked marrying Andy on March 7th, 2008
I don't have time to find the links right now, but yes, it's been speculated that some vaccines that contained compounds of mercury may be responsible for the rise in autism.
Hang on, I'll just find the link anyway.
http://www.wddty.com/03363800370817441035/mmr-and-autism-us-court-says-there-s-a-link-and-awards-compensation.html
by Galeanda on March 7th, 2008
From http://www.mercola.com/1999/archive/link_between_autism_and_vaccinations.htm
Responding to a new report released yesterday by the California Health and Human Services Agency revealing a 273 percent increase in California children diagnosed with autism during the past decade, the National Vaccine Information Center and three other advocacy organizations representing parents of autistic children are calling for independent scientific research into whether increased vaccination in early childhood is a contributing co-factor to the development of autism.
According to the California State Department of Developmental Services (DDS), in 1998 there were 1,685 new cases of children diagnosed with autism with an incidence rate, based on 1998 population figures, of one in 312 California children now being diagnosed with autism. These figures include only children served by the California Developmental Services System and do not include the more than 13,500 children aged zero to three years in the state’s Early Start Program, yet to be diagnosed, most of whom present with language and developmental delays. Autism as a percent of the total clients’ population served by California’s regional centers nearly doubled between 1987 and 1998, with the most significant increases seen in young children less than nine years of age.
It has been widely accepted that between two to five cases of autism occur per 10,000 live births in the U.S. Based on these estimates, only one in 2,000 to one in 5,000 births in California should eventually be diagnosed with autism instead of the one in 312 which actually occurred in 1998.
The DDS report stated that "the number of persons entering the system with autism has increased dramatically over the past 11 years relative to the other three developmental disabilities (cerebral palsy, epilepsy and mental retardation)" and "compared with other disabilities, net growth in the number of persons with autism is on average about three times greater each year." DDS predicted that the autism population in California would continue to grow and that "independent study of the factors that have contributed to the increase" needs to be conducted.
Calling the report "a warning bell," and pointing out that the dramatic rise in autism in young children during the past decade coincides with dramatically rising vaccination rates in California and other states, the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) joined with Autism Research Institute (ARI), Cure Autism Now (CAN), and Autism Autoimmunity Project in endorsing the state agency’s call for independent scientific research to investigate causes of autism. The parent groups are urging that immunization be examined as one of the possible biological co-factors involved in the development of autism in some children.
"Parents are reporting to our organization in record numbers that their children are becoming autistic after vaccination. Our experience in the past 17 years has been that, as immunization rates have increased significantly in all states, we have seen an increase in reports of vaccine reactions, including immune system dysfunction and autistic behaviors." said NVIC cofounder and president, Barbara Loe Fisher.
Bernard Rimland, Ph.D., founder and director of Autism Research Institute (ARI), said "Our database includes thousands of cases of previously healthy children who began exhibiting autistic behaviors soon after getting a routine vaccination." Portia Iverson, founder and president of CAN, the Cure Autism Now foundation, agreed adding "Approximately one-half of the hundreds of parents who call our office each month report that their healthy child became autistic shortly after vaccination." Ray Gallup, Director of Autism Autoimmunity Project, said "We can’t wait any longer to find whether some children are at higher risk than others for developing autism following vaccination."
Six new vaccines were added to the mandatory vaccination schedule in the U.S. between 1963 and 1998, including five doses of live oral polio; two doses of live measles, mumps and rubella; four doses of HIB; and three doses of hepatitis B vaccine. During the same time period, vaccination coverage rates rose in American children under age three from between 60 and 80 percent in 1967 for MMR, polio and DPT vaccines to between 80 and 95 percent coverages in 1997 for DPT; MMR, polio, HIB, and hepatitis B vaccines.
The April 2, 1999 Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report published by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) reported that "Overall, U.S. vaccination coverage is at record high levels. In 1997, coverage among children aged 19-35 months exceeded 90 percent for three or more doses of DPT ... poliovirus vaccine ... HIB vaccine and one or more doses of measles containing vaccine." Additionally, coverage for three doses of hepatitis B vaccine was 84 percent.
Many previously healthy children, who begin exhibiting autistic behaviors after vaccination, also show signs of an immune system dysfunction. Some of the children have been diagnosed with high measles or rubella titers and have had their autistic behaviors eliminated or reduced through therapies affecting immune system function, such as intravenous immune globulin (IVIG) infusions and diet modifications.
http://vaccineinfo.net/
Leading British Autism Doctor Vicitimized
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/12/22/autism-part-four.aspx
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/pages/the-danger-of-excessive-vaccination-during-brain-development.aspx
The Vaccine Injury Compensation Law
If you or your child suffered a reaction to a vaccination that caused an excess of $1000 in medical bills or caused injuries that have lasted longer than six months, you may be entitled to benefits under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (PL 99-660). This federal compensation system was created by Congress to provide reimbursement for medical and custodial care expenses or award a fixed amount in the case of a vaccine-related death. As of February of 2003, 3,482 vaccine victims have received compensation totaling over $1.4 billion. For details call (800) 338-2382 or visit the
National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) web site.
by Gideon on March 7th, 2008
Not one major scientific study has found a link between autism and the MMR vaccination and thimerisol.
In fact, one study found that rates of autism rose in California even as the amount of thimerosal in vaccines declined.
Further research is probably indicated, as it's possible vaccines or their components, while not primary causes of autism, may cause autism in a subset of genetically susceptible children, or a neurological condition that resembles autism. However, current research indicates that vaccinations and autism are merely a coincidental link. If MMR and thimerisol really caused autism, the rate of incidence should be vastly higher.
Thimerisol has not been used since 2001, yet the rate of diagnosed autism keeps going up. Personally, I think a companion study should be done charting the manufacturing and advertizing of autism drugs and the rate of diagnoses.
A case was recently adjudicated onvolving a young girl who apparently developed autism after receiving none vaccinations. However, the wording in the court ruling was very specific, saying that while the vaccinations may have aggravated a pre-existing genetic mitochondrial condition, they were not proven to have caused the onset of autism.
by Tinkerbell on March 7th, 2008
There is a great deal of concern in the UK regarding the MMR vaccine and autism.
There is no definitive link and the science behind such claims has been questioned on validity and ethical grounds. However it is still a fairly hot topic and (sadly) became very political, which clouded the issue somewhat (it doesn't matter whether Tony Blair had his son inoculated with a combined or separate vaccines, what matters is the science).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy
I am unsure, I haven't looked into it much as I don't need to yet. When the time comes I will. Initial reaction is I can't see any prima facie evidence of a connection.
As for other vaccines I am completely unsure.
by angel on March 12th, 2008
http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html
plenty more where that came from. These days yo can ask the doctors, a lot of them will finally tell you the truth. How about the law suits they pay out daily
by girlygirl on March 7th, 2008
I truly think so.. I think it's age and vaccinations that is the problem. my son is 3 mos. I'm terrified to get him immunized because I believe it. My husband and I are fighting over this. I think if we must we should wait until he's older.
by Tussen on March 7th, 2008
For this and a number of other reasons we chose a pediatrician that does not contract with insurance companies. It gives him the ability to choose whatever medicines, treatments and vaccines he feels are best for our child. I file my own insurance claims and am typically reimbursed for about 75% of the total cost.
You may consider finding someone who offers similar services. He does house calls too if you can believe that!
by Im Alec has abandoned this account
on June 6th, 2010
voted:
No
The possibility of a link between autism and vaccines, suggested in one paper on a tiny sample by a doctor who was later found to have a financial interest in proving the link and to have behaved very unethically, has been researched in depth and no connection found. Whatever the cause of the rise in autism, it is /not/vaccines. This is not to suggest that the rise is not occurring, just that one particular cause has been conclusively excluded. Andrew Wakefield's original group was 8 children, all already known to have intestinal problems; the counter studies have involved 40,000 children from whole populations.
by LorrieV
on June 6th, 2010
voted:
No
Correlation does not equal causation; Google is not a verifiably qualified source of medical information and Jenny McCarthy is no authority on science.
by Nikki k
on October 31st, 2010
voted:
Yes
ive heard that the mercery in vacinations may be the reason why kids are popping up with autisum.. learning dissabilities and all that...including ADD which i have.IVE only been vaccinated ONCE in my life BTW and im HARDLY ever sick...well letme ell you i plan on NEVER getting vacinated again.. i think its a scam!... well..all i gotta say is i was watching the HISTORY channel and they were talking about this vaccination they were giving to kids...all the sudden they started turning up with "AUTISTIC" and mental disorders...they also gave it to pregnant women.their baby's wereborn with autism.. all these people started coming farward and they did ALL sortsof studies on the kids and mothers, and they found that their wa indeed a link between the two...
by sungazer on January 7th, 2009
yes, there definitely is. Of course the autism rates are rising since they stopped putting mercury in the vaccines only a few years ago because the kids are just starting to show it. The "studies" are rigged, and all of the "flu" shots still contain Mercury . Mercury is a potent neurotoxin as is MSG, Aspartame, Aluminum and Flouride. There is a spiritual (I don't subscribe to any religion) war going on and the children are the targets. These neurotoxins destroy their ability to think clearly and they target the penial and the pituitary glands; slowly destroying health and mind. Flouride was first used by Hitler in the public water supply to make people docile and gulliable (research if you don't believe it) and the gov is putting flouride into as many things as it can. Telling us that it prevents tooth decay is hogwash; the truth is that it harms the teeth. If flouride worked why is it that everyone has MERCURY amalgam fillings in their mouths. These neurotoxins are being pushed at us from all directions- alluminum in the baking soda and all baked goods as a result, alluminum in the deoderant; flouride in the water, toothpaste, mouth wash, and not they want to put it in school lunch milks! Monosodiom glutamate is in everything and is even disguised under many names (google all of the sources of Msg. They tell us that msg is natural and is safe; but what they lie about is the fact that in nature, free glutamates,which is what msg is, are very few, but, in processed food the amounts are poison to our nerves!
I'm sorry, but I see a conspiracy here and I don't care if it isn't popular.
by angel on March 12th, 2008
Thanks!
by Esteban-- Smartest Pumpkin on March 12th, 2008
no.
by Anonymous
on April 5th, 2010
voted:
No
Newer studies from 2010 are showing that they are not linked.
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Aye.. indeed.
by -O-uknow on March 7th, 2008
yep
by Mushen on March 7th, 2008
Extremely well put and to the point.
by Tussen on March 7th, 2008
Thank you. I was afraid that being so brief could have been seen as flippant and uncaring.
by Brian I on March 7th, 2008
Morning Brian we all know your not that way :)
by shady on March 7th, 2008
Good morning (well, afternoon in my case) to you, and thank you for those kind words.
by Brian I on March 7th, 2008
BULLSHIT ...PERIOD Do the research, that is totally not true. There are so many cases of autism , it isn't even funny. They pay out the law suits because they are very real. Another thing, vaccines have saved NO ONE It is not about anything except politics, it has been proven. Take a harder look
by angel on March 8th, 2008
Thank you for that very reasoned and polite response. I imagine you hold similar views on the political nature of climate change.
by Brian I on March 8th, 2008
Let me tell you something. When you watch your child or grandchild live through what I have seen, and what I have had to do to try and give him his life back, your not real nice when you still see people who won't even look. I hope you never have to know. I am never gonna get polite about this , that is for sure. LOOK at something real, not the same place that caused it!
by angel on March 8th, 2008
After 9 years, I can give you both reason and polite, but I gave that up. Now I just sit back each day and get call after call from all the people that thought I was unreasonable.
by angel on March 8th, 2008
I sympathise with the fact that a member of your family suffers from autism. Don't you think it would be useful to others if you gave an answer to this question detailing whatever evidence you have to support your beliefs?
Remember, I haven't said that a link doesn't exist, just that parents have a difficult moral choice between an action that could cause autism and an inaction that could cause death.
by Brian I on March 8th, 2008
I could give you 9 years worth and countless people that have benefited but I cannot do it on a comment. I can say that I saw what happened, started a search for his detox. Got that done with a homeopath. He can now talk, walk, read, play, touch things that he couldn't, wear clothing, etc etc . And on the very first day of detoxing the vaccines, he had his color return in his lips and spoke his first words "I love you mama" and kissed me, which he has never done. They were removed in opposite order from which they were put in. He continues to progress and never ever gets sick. He is the healthiest child I know. I also had his sister detoxed and they were calling her normal. She no longer screams and bangs her head etc . This is a very short , short version. There is a moral choice and it is decided. I am upset that no one looks at the evidence. They ask the same brainwashed doctors or listen to the same people that caused it. They stand to lose countless dollars etc . It's all there
by angel on March 8th, 2008
BTW have you looked at vaccine ingredients. They will and do not cure ANYTHING! I had children that reeked of the smell you preserve dead people with and frogs in science class. Look at the ingredients. The polio was the very worst coming out right along with the dpt's. I know hundreds of kids that were detoxed because of my children and they all saw similar things and they all have progressed. There is work to be done after that, and I am doing it, but it doesn't involve mainstream "medicine" and it actually works. It is not a life sentence or a lifelong treatment of drugs. These are the lucky ones. For the people that refuse to look, their children do not get better from what I have seen. They get regimented and treated like dogs mostly, at schools etc. They have para's that know nothing mostly, and their parents live for what little respite care they can get. They endure stuff in courts etc. I do not have a law suit. I am only interested in getting his life completely back.
by angel on March 8th, 2008
In the UK scientists have found no link between MMR & autism: The Andrew Wakefield paper that started the scare, published in The Lancet in 1998, reported only the anecdotal suspicions of a few parents who thought their children’s autism started when they were given MMR. It had no controls, it presented no evidence, and it has been so thoroughly discredited that the journal’s editor admits he should not have run it. Several epidemiological studies, which have compared the prevalence of autism with MMR vaccination rates in Britain and abroad, have found no association. Autism specialists, virologists and paediatricians have long spoken with one voice: the triple jab is as safe as any other vaccine. As a result of the scare, measles and mumps have made a comeback; the first measles death in the UK for 15 years was reported in 2006, and at least two of last year’s cases required treatment in intensive care. Measles can also cause brain damage.
by Mushen on March 11th, 2008
well that is the version that want you to believe, and as usual it works on quite a few. There is no deciding, they know vaccines cause autism and plenty more. You need to get out of the box and look into things that aren't paid for by the culprits
by angel on March 11th, 2008
BTW my child didn't have the MMR when he was 18 mos He was late on that. He still had the same symptoms. The doctors will tell you that Autism sets in at 18 mos. and therefore has nothing to do with getting an MMR ( Besides the Dr's that have began to tell the truth) I am wondering how you would explain that when I had him detoxed from the MMR, he immediately began talking and his pupils went back to normal etc etc etc etc etc etc He has powder blue eyes that had turned black because the pupils were so huge. This is now gone. His eye contact came back. I can go on about myself and hundreds of others. Wakefield was , to put it how it is, FUCKED
by angel on March 11th, 2008
http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html
http://www.thinktwice.com
you could start here and look until eternity if you are interested
by angel on March 11th, 2008
Or you can look at IN LIES WE TRUST
by angel on March 11th, 2008
well I had the MMR as a kid and I am fine, so is my brother and so is my son (who is 4 years old) and my nephew who is 3 years old - we are all absolutely 100% OK - no problems at all. How would you explain this?
by Mushen on March 11th, 2008
I would doubt that you have no problems if they were MMR's as in 3 in one and with the same preservatives. If your kids have no learning disabilities, physical ailments or autism, then you are lucky that their constitution is stronger than most. You cannot have vaccines, and escape all of these. Look around. Do you think their was an epidemic ? I believe it was 1996 when they started putting these in one shot and adding even more trash to preserve. Look up vaccine ingredients. Think again about what you may have, and the issues you have at home. I don't know of a family without issues. Even if they don't contribute it to the vaccines. Also, it isn't the MMR that is the culprit alone. I watched , I had proof. They are all detrimental . I have been studying and researching for years, this is political. I cannot give you everything I know and believe in a paragraph. They are your kids, you look
by angel on March 11th, 2008
PS how do you explain my sons pupils and his speaking and all the progress after alleviating his system from vaccine and ingredients?? I am not alone here, take a look at something they DON"T want you to know. I have people calling me every day for years after telling me that I was insane. Not so easy when it hits home. It does seem that the very intelligent have weaker nervous systems and they are affected in a bigger way. Just something I checked into after listening to a homeopath. I think he is correct
by angel on March 11th, 2008
by the same token, how do you explain the lack of any side-effect in me, my brother, nephew and son? Before making any decision either way (for or against) why not spend a while seeking out the cold hard facts and statistics (on a global scale or at least based upon population count of the western world).
by Mushen on March 11th, 2008
Been there You need to do that
by angel on March 11th, 2008
why - I'm not the one having a paranoia attack?
by Mushen on March 11th, 2008
ok if you say so
by angel on March 11th, 2008
well, it would be somewhat pointless to be paranoid at 37 years old having been vaccinated when I was 18 months old. In fact, I've had all the vaccinations as a kid that were available at the time, you name it, I've had it, polio, TB, Small Pox, Tetanus and this was just during childhood. I have since holidayed in Thailand (a few years ago now, over a decade at least) and then I had some more vaccinations. Oh lord, I can feel myself becoming ever more hysterical as each moment passes........
by Mushen on March 11th, 2008
I can see that
by angel on March 11th, 2008
I just can't help you with that sorry
by angel on March 11th, 2008
does anybody have a straight-jacket that I could borrow?
by Mushen on March 11th, 2008
I hope so... but if not, do not fret, you are the normal herd mentality. you fit in fine
by angel on March 11th, 2008
I do hope that doesn't mean you are in the 'abnormal' category?
by Mushen on March 12th, 2008
No , just the "thinking " catagory
by angel on March 12th, 2008
phew - that's a relief.
by Mushen on March 12th, 2008
Save it for your children and grandchildren and by all means, start thinking any time now
by angel on March 12th, 2008
have you had measles recently? Just curious............
by Mushen on March 12th, 2008
No and I have never had a measles shot. My husband however got polio from a polio vaccine :) and my son was detoxed of every disease going from his vaccines sorry but you are way off look at the links I gave you, You are a fool. Not my problem. Sorry for the people you are responsible for
by angel on March 12th, 2008
These days yo can ask the doctors, a lot of them will finally tell you the truth. A lot have come clean in public. How about the law suits the government pays out daily.. they are real I can send you stuff all day long that WASN'T put out by the AMA FDA and CDC etc All documented and credible You are the perfect sheep. I congratulate you
by angel on March 12th, 2008
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/damaged.html
by angel on March 12th, 2008
I hate to say it, but it's not me who's been doing the bleating my woolly little friend.
by Mushen on March 12th, 2008
You all sound the same. I don't care if you look or not, but you will find out very soon I fear
by angel on March 12th, 2008
PS they are your children. I have no personal interest there. Fear will destroy you.. mark my words. I have people call me daily, after they see , finally. I could tell you things that would flip you right out. I didn't see the need because I am thinking that anyone with children would care enough to look at both sides. I was wrong
by angel on March 12th, 2008
nite
by angel on March 12th, 2008
Sweet dreams Angel.
by Mushen on March 12th, 2008