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You're reading Jehovah's Witnessses can you explain Colossians 2:16, especially the "eating" and "drinking" part?
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How should I know? It is their translation, I'm want to know what is means.
by Music-of-Love on November 5th, 2011
It was just the way you asked, I thought there was some kind of point you were trying to make Never mind me. :)
Their translation?
Well, here is what it says in three:
nwt: Therefore let no man judge YOU in eating and drinking or in respect of a festival or of an observance of the new moon or of a sabbath;
niv: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
kjv: Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
So, since all the Bible translation say the same thing, every Bible reader should get the same idea.
Short paragraph taken from the Watchtower:
Christians are under no obligation to join in religious festivals and processions. In referring to festivals that had been required by God’s Law to ancient Israel, the apostle Paul wrote: “Let no man judge you in eating and drinking or in respect of a festival or of an observance of the new moon or of a sabbath; for those things are a shadow of the things to come, but the reality belongs to the Christ.” (Colossians 2:16, 17) The Christians in Colossae were to let no one judge their standing before God on the basis of observance of festivals of the Mosaic Law.
When you said especially the eating and drinking part, what was it about the eating and drinking you wanted to know about?
Just that Witnesses abstain from eating anything with blood in it, and also only the anointed part take in the eating and drinking of the bread and wine. So...maybe it was to do with this? :)
by Strength on November 6th, 2011
There are people in Asia and Africa who eat/drink blood, so based on the Watchtower and the NTW translation of Colossians 2:16 Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong if they tell those people not to eat/drink blood. Something is not right with their phrasing of the scripture. The KJV is the correct translation.
by Music-of-Love on November 7th, 2011
Ah, I understand.
It is only when one decides they wish to follow Jehovah that a Witness may show them from the Bible why eating or drinking blood as they previously did is not Biblical. The only reason for showing, is to help the person become more spiritually aware of how to follow the Bible's counsel so to grow closer to God, and to keep the congregation clean. As God's followers all must follow the same belief. You couldn't have some who eat blood and then other who don't, if the Bible tells us not to eat blood. :)
This is not a man made teaching to abstain from blood. It comes straight from God's word. So then, if a person were to commit themselves to God, they would abstain from eating and drinking of blood for wanting to do what God asks of them.
Acts 15:28-29
King James Version (KJV)
28For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
KJV tells us not to eat blood.
The scripture in colossians says 'in meat and drink,' however it doesn't say 'in bloody meat and drink'. ,
We can eat meat all we like, but we make sure there is no blood in it if we want to follow what God asks of us.
by Strength on November 7th, 2011
Thw Watchtower makes Paul looks like a fool; one minute he is telling you not to consume blood and the next minute he is telling you let no man judge you in what you eat or drink. Why don't he make up his mind?
Is it OK to drink a bottle of whiskey?
by Music-of-Love on November 7th, 2011
as you have been shown already, it is not just the nwt that says pretty much the same thing. you are writing this to criticize and ridicule, and for no other reason. paul was not writing of his own accord. did you note he mentioned the HOLY Spirit was involved in the decision to abstain from blood? he as a matter of fact did NOT write anything, all he did was distribute what the apostles in jerusalem had written to the first century christians in the surrounding congregations.
by autumn leaves on November 8th, 2011
I ask again ... Is it Ok to drink a bottle of whiskey?
I don't have a problem with the scriptures that admonished us not to comsume blood. I have a problem with the Watchtower's implication that you can eat and drink whatever you want except blood.
The verse (Colossian 2:16) is in no way talking about "eating and drinking" as in food.
by Music-of-Love on November 8th, 2011
MoL, if you want to drink a bottle of whiskey go ahead. Christians wan't judge you for it. (1 Corinthians 5:12) For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do YOU not judge those inside,
Unless it was one of those very small bottles that they have at airports and you are a large man, I don't think it would be good for your health though.
From the Live Forever in Paradise book:
[11 The drinking of wine, beer or liquor in moderation is not against God’s law. In fact, the Bible shows that a little wine can be good for a person’s health. (Psalm 104:15; 1 Timothy 5:23) But it is against God’s law to get drunk, or to share in wild parties at which people carry on immoral conduct. (Ephesians 5:18; 1 Peter 4:3, 4) In addition to using alcoholic drinks to get drunk or “high,” many persons today use various drugs for this same purpose. Also, for pleasure they may smoke marijuana or tobacco, while others may chew betel nut or coca leaves. But these things make their bodies unclean and harm their health. So if you want to be a subject of God’s government, you must keep away from these harmful things.—2 Corinthians 7:1.]
(Psalm 104:15) And wine that makes the heart of mortal man rejoice, To make the face shine with oil, And bread that sustains the very heart of mortal man.
(1 Timothy 5:23) Do not drink water any longer, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent cases of sickness.
(Ephesians 5:18) Also, do not be getting drunk with wine, in which there is debauchery, but keep getting filled with spirit,
(1 Peter 4:3-4) For the time that has passed by is sufficient for YOU to have worked out the will of the nations when YOU proceeded in deeds of loose conduct, lusts, excesses with wine, revelries, drinking matches, and illegal idolatries. 4 Because YOU do not continue running with them in this course to the same low sink of debauchery, they are puzzled and go on speaking abusively of YOU.
(2 Corinthians 7:1) Therefore, since we have these promises, beloved ones, let us cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in God’s fear.
I have been noticing that you appear to have been asking insincere questions in comments on AB trying to put JW's in a bad light and trying to cause arguments. Am I mistaken or is this your agenda?
by Texasescimo on November 8th, 2011
Romans 14:21 says "It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to "to drink wine, nor anything whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak."
Innumerable Christians claim their "Christian Liberty" when it comes to social drinking. In order to do that, they must turn their backs on this passage of Scripture. "Sipping Saints" have given multitudes of people an excuse to drink. More than once, I have heard a believer say "there is nothing wrong with drinking in moderation. Pastor so and so even says it is OK."
The problem is, drinking often sets off a chain reaction of influences that are like tipping over the first domino. Drinking causes some to stumble, others to be offended, and many to be weakened. Studies support my statement.
According to a survey done by the Daily Journal newspaper, October 26, 1988, one of the top five reasons teenagers drink is because their parents drink. This has proven true time and time again.
Let me take it one step further. Parents, you must remember that whatever you do in moderation your child will likely do in excess.
The Bible clearly defines drinking as an activity that is to be foregone because it causes others to stumble and makes them weak (fall into sin).
Does man know more than God?
by Music-of-Love on November 8th, 2011
I'm gone. This seems silly. :)
by Strength on November 8th, 2011
silly is an understatement, i'm done too!
by autumn leaves on November 9th, 2011
Why is wisdom always seems silly to a Jehovah's Witness? Hmmmm...
by Music-of-Love on November 9th, 2011
I agree it is better to be wise than otherwise. :) However, I don't believe some of your recent comments above resemble God's Wisdom as revealed in Scripture.
Yes, parents can set a bad example and that is the problem, not in God's gift itself. Food is also a gift but people can abuse it. If parents become obese, are they setting a bad example of health to their children? Of course! But this doesn't mean there is anything wrong with a proper use and view of food.
We can talk all day long about case studies of the negative effects of 'illicit sex.' This doesn't mean that sex is inappropriate, actually it is a beautiful gift from God IF it is not abused and confined to the marriage arrangement. Most do not follow God's guidelines but that is no reflection on God's wisdom in anyway is it? More can be said but I hope you see my point. Or am I just being silly? :)
by nick batchelor on November 13th, 2011