Is the Father the only true God?

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• I probably should have posted in my question what Jesus said.
  (John 17:1-3) Jesus spoke these things, and, raising his eyes to heaven, he said: “Father, the hour has come; glorify your son, that your son may glorify you, 2 according as you have given him authority over all flesh, that, as regards the whole [number] whom you have given him, he may give them everlasting life. 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.

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  by Texasescimo on December 14th, 2009

• Hello again Polly Math. In the first century, Christians thought that Jesus was the son of God. The Trinity developed over the next several hundred years through philosophy. The Bible foretold an apostasy until the time of the end.
  http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/8587757
  
  (Col 2:8) Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry YOU off as his prey through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;
  (2 Peter 1:16) No, it was not by following artfully contrived false stories that we acquainted YOU with the power and presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, but it was by having become eyewitnesses of his magnificence.
  (2 Timothy 4:2-4) preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories.
  (Acts 20:29-31) I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and from among YOU yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves. 31 “Therefore keep awake, and bear in mind that for three years, night and day, I did not quit admonishing each one with tears.
  (2 Thessalonians 2:3-7) Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things? 6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way.
  (2 Peter 2:1-3) However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among YOU. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves. 2 Furthermore, many will follow their acts of loose conduct, and on account of these the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively. 3 Also, with covetousness they will exploit YOU with counterfeit words. But as for them, the judgment from of old is not moving slowly, and the destruction of them is not slumbering.
  
  
  
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Pet1:16;%202Tim4:2-4;%20Acts20:29-31;2Thes2:3-7;2Pet2:1-3;&version=NASB;KJV;ESV;NIV;YLT;

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  by Texasescimo on January 14th, 2010

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• Not sure if I thanked you for your answer yet as on the new AB, comments keep disappearing and then coming back. Thank you for your answer.

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  by Texasescimo on December 22nd, 2009

• you're welcome!

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  by Anonymous on December 27th, 2009

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• Thank you for your answer. I see you voted yes, do you believe that Jesus is the Father or that the Father is the only true God and that Jesus is God's son?

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  by Texasescimo on December 20th, 2009

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• Whats the FSM? (You knew I was gonna ask, didn't you?) Lol

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  by Texasescimo on December 14th, 2009

• I love the Flying Spaghetti Monster. He is the Truest God ever! ;-)

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  by Don Gorgeous George on December 15th, 2009

• Lol. Thanks for clarifying George. I am still laughing. I can't click submit yet.

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  by Texasescimo on December 15th, 2009

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• Hello rabid, I meant to post John 17:3 with my question. No disrespect intended but Jesus said that the Father is the only true God.
  (John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
  
  Jesus also said that "I live because of the Father", Jehovah does not live because of anyone else.
  (John 6:57) Just as the living Father sent me forth and I live because of the Father, he also that feeds on me, even that one will live because of me.
  
  The Father created Jesus and then through Jesus, God created everything else.
  (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.
  (Hebrews 1:2) has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.
  (John 1:3) All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5565&t=NASB
  
  (John 1:10) He was in the world, and the world came into existence through him, but the world did not know him.
  (Colossians 1:15-16) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him.
  (Revelation 3:14) “And to the angel of the congregation in La‧o‧di‧ce′a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,
  (Proverbs 8:22) “Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago.
  (Proverbs 8:30) then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time,
  (Genesis 1:26) And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.”
  
  
  In line with the principle at 1Cor 15:27-28, it is evident that everything, would be with the exception of himself and God, as he obviously did not create himself or God. The Bible shows that God created Jesus and then through Jesus, he created everything else.
  
  1Cor 15:27-28 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.

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  by Texasescimo on January 15th, 2010

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• Thank you for your answer Larry. If you are referring to the Trinity, my understanding is that is suppossed to be Father + Son + Holy Ghost = Trinity.
  If the Father is the only true God, that would exclude anyone else from being the true God.
  Character + Character + Character = Actor. If Character (A) is the only paid actor, that would exclude the other two from being paid actors.
  
  (John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
  (1 Corinthians 8:5-6) For even though there are those who are called “gods,” whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.

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  by Texasescimo on January 22nd, 2010

• Correct. BUT your question assumed that Captain Kirk was the only true star of Star Trek. In fact, it was not Kirk or TJ Hooker, but William Shatner. Does that make sense?

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  by LarryH54 on January 22nd, 2010

• Nope, not at all.
  Do you really read something into this simple statement that I am not seeing?
  (John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
  I know that Jesus spoke in parables sometimes, but I am pretty sure that he was speaking plainly about the Father here and not using a figure of speech. What do you think?

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  by Texasescimo on January 22nd, 2010

• Kirk and Hooker are characters. Persons if you will. William Shatner is the being that brings those characters to life.
  Where did God send Jesus FROM? From himself. One Being. Three Persons. Seems simple enough to me...

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  by LarryH54 on January 22nd, 2010

• The Bible does not make us guess at where our Lord and Savior Jesus ranks compared to the one he called the "only true God".
  1Cor 11:3 But I want YOU to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the Christ is God.
  
  Jesus is subordinate to God as we are subordinate to Jesus.
  
  John 12:49-50 because I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak. 50 Also, I know that his commandment means everlasting life. Therefore the things I speak, just as the Father has told me [them], so I speak [them
  
  John 13:16 Most truly I say to YOU, A slave is not greater than his master, nor is one that is sent forth greater than the one that sent him
  
  John 14:28 YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am
  
  John 17:21-22 in order that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, in order that the world may believe that you sent me forth. 22 Also, I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one
  
  John 20:21 Jesus, therefore, said to them again: “May YOU have peace. Just as the Father has sent me forth, I also am sending YOU
  John 20:31 But these have been written down that YOU may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God, and that, because of believing, YOU may have life by means of his name
  
  (2 Corinthians 1:3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort,

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  by Texasescimo on January 23rd, 2010

• Quote: "Where did God send Jesus FROM? From himself. One Being. Three Persons. Seems simple enough to me..."
  Up above, I was trying to show that someone that sent is not the same as the person that sent him, you might look at Joshua 24:5 and Psalms 105:26 also, as Moses is not God, although some might get that from Ex 4:16, 7:1.
  
  Here I am going to try to answer from the perspective of where did Jesus come from.
  
  (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.
  (Hebrews 1:2) has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things.
  (John 1:3) All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5565&t=NASB
  (John 1:10) He was in the world, and the world came into existence through him, but the world did not know him.
  (Colossians 1:15-16) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him.
  (Revelation 3:14) “And to the angel of the congregation in La‧o‧di‧ce′a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,
  (Proverbs 8:22) “Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago.
  (Proverbs 8:30) then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time,
  (Genesis 1:26) And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.”
  
  Jesus also said that "I live because of the Father", Jehovah does not live because of anyone else.
  (John 6:57) Just as the living Father sent me forth and I live because of the Father, he also that feeds on me, even that one will live because of me.
  In line with the principle at 1Cor 15:27-28, it is evident that everything, would be with the exception of himself and God, as he obviously did not create himself or God. The Bible shows that God created Jesus and then through Jesus, he created everything else.
  
  1Cor 15:27-28 For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.
  
  
  The scriptures show that Jehovah is the creator.
  (Genesis 1:1) In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
  (Genesis 1:6) And God went on to say: “Let an expanse come to be in between the waters and let a dividing occur between the waters and the waters.”
  (Psalm 33:6) By the word of Jehovah the heavens themselves were made, And by the spirit of his mouth all their army.
  (Psalm 148:5) Let them praise the name of Jehovah; For he himself commanded, and they were created.
  (Ephesians 3:14-15) On account of this I bend my knees to the Father, 15 to whom every family in heaven and on earth owes its name,
  (Ephesians 1:3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ,

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  by Texasescimo on January 23rd, 2010

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• Silly Santy, your not suppossed to start out with Yes when you vote no. Who's Odin?

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  by Texasescimo on December 28th, 2009

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• Sorry to hear that.

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  by Texasescimo on December 14th, 2009

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• Sorry if I offended you. I posted the question under "Christian beliefs" for a reason.

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  by Texasescimo on December 14th, 2009

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• Who am I to stop womens lib.

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  by Texasescimo on December 15th, 2009

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• Have you ever asked a question to try to get people to think?

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  by Texasescimo on December 14th, 2009

• Friartuck no pole establishes "truth" this is why polls are for opinions and feelings of the poll takers.
  
  So all polls would be silly if you were looking for truth in the polls.
  
  Remember, polls are opinion polls.

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  by no_one_special on December 20th, 2009

• For one that does not believe in the Bible or think altering what it says, it would not be a big deal. But to sincere people that believe in the Bible and are misled by their paid preachers, it should be a big deal. In the King James Version, John 17:3 contradicts 1John 5:7. One of those was a late addition.
  
  King James Version John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
  King James Version 1John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1John5:7-8;&version=NIV;HCSB;NKJV;NLT;NASB;

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  by Texasescimo on December 21st, 2009

• Had a look at some of the other polls you're setting up. Now I see what you're getting at...

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  by Friartuck on December 21st, 2009

• Most additions would only be a concern to those that believe in the Bible as far as learning the truth.
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  Mark 16:9-20 is an addition that should be concern to everyone as verses 17-18 are why some Churches handle snakes. Most modern translations tell you in a footnote or in the text that it is not in the older manuscripts. The King James Version does not. Copy and paste the link at the end to your browser to see what I am talking about.
  Mark 16:17-18(KJV) "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
  
  18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
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  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark16:9-20;&version=NIV;NKJV;NCV;ESV;NASB;

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  by Texasescimo on December 21st, 2009

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• http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/8575385

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  by Texasescimo on January 1st, 2010

• Possibly because the question contains a half-truth, making it readable two ways.

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  by LarryH54 on January 22nd, 2010

• I don't quite understand. Are you saying that if I had worded it right that more people would have voted yes?
  I don't understand how its a half truth either. Too me, "only" means there is no other true God. My understanding is that
  if there is another true God, then the Father would not be the "only" true God.

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  by Texasescimo on January 22nd, 2010

• The Father is the only True God. But then again, the Son and the Spirit are Persons that are intrinsically that SAME God. I believe I explained how this is possible elsewhere on this question.

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  by LarryH54 on January 22nd, 2010

• Thats kind of like saying that I am the only one on AB, but there are others on AB also.

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  by Texasescimo on January 22nd, 2010