Just wondering? Do you think religious people are brainwashed by churches, bibles and priests?

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• ? FICTION cannot beat SCIENCE.
  at least for one of them, there's proof?

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  by giotorrent on October 30th, 2009

• That's not at all comparable in regard to college. Critical thinking and factual support reign supreme there.

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  by The Gay Expositor Avenges His Lordship on October 30th, 2009

• Well, if critical thinking and factual support reigned supreme in college, then why are they so afraid to discuss the claims of Christianity and Creative Design?

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  by Timjon on October 30th, 2009

• You've committed a fallacy there, Timjon. Refusal to discuss something (when it happens, which isn't always) cannot be presumed to indicate fear of the discussion.
   
  Also, many atheists have never been to college, and did not necessarily get their atheism from the sources you've mentioned. That is a fallacy of misplacing the burden-of-proof: the Christians carry the burden of proof to show that their claims are credible, they cannot argue that non-believers have been brainwashed... they need to provide adequate support for what they're claiming.

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  by HasntBeen on October 30th, 2009

• I'd also like to point out that from my own experience, most professors of the sciences as well as humanities are not afraid to discuss the claims of religion and Intelligent Design. In fact, most encourage it, and present the arguments and claims of both sides, ultimately allowing students to make the decisions for themselves. In fact, the only times I've ever heard a professor cut off a discussion involving God was when the participants were starting to belittle each other (on both sides).

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  by The Jester on October 30th, 2009

• Let me just say from my own experience, guys, that if anyone had a reason to hate the church, it was I. I'm not going to go into details because it would serve no good purpose. Secondly, when I asked Christ to forgive me and save me, it was at the time I was going to kill myself, I was not even going to church and never even read the Bible because I couldn't even understand it. In fact, I was quite angry with my minister, and did not have any positive relationships with any before that.
  
  Bottom line-------your theory of me being "brainwashed," had absolutely nothing to do with my conversion into the Christian faith and my personal relationship with God thru Jesus Christ. Thanks for your comments, nevertheless.

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  by Timjon on October 30th, 2009

• I don't believe I said you were brainwashed, so that qualifies as a "strawman" fallacy -- trying to attribute a position to your opponent which they aren't actually holding, because it's easy to refute.
   
  Your answer came out aggressive -- asserting a broad, unsupported generalization about others. Clearly, it's a reaction to the broad, unsupported generalization in the question -- no doubt about that. But two wrongs don't make a right. If you want to challenge the silliness in the question, you need to pick it apart and show where it's mistaken. Simply making up a contradictory myth accomplishes nothing, and dumbs the conversation down.
   
  You have a legitimate chance to stand up for your faith in a way that has integrity and is also sound from an argument standpoint. I'm just suggesting you use that opportunity.

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  by HasntBeen on October 30th, 2009