by Little big mouth on September 8th, 2007

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Atheists only please. Did you become an atheist after believing or did you never believe at all? My uncle became an atheist after years of being an altar boy & going to Church every Sunday & I was just curious about others

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  • by bagicide stayed 10 months too long on May 24th, 2009

    bagicide stayed 10 months too long

    I'm no longer an atheist, although I went through an atheist phase.

    Here is a little food for thought. Even if you are raised in a Christian home and go to church every Sunday, you hear about God once a week in church and if you are lucky, maybe in the few minutes you get to spend with your family each evening. You hear the message of atheism (even if they don't call it by name) 6 hours a day, five days a week in school. Who is getting more "air time?"

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    • How do you figure atheism is discussed 6 hours a day? Do you mean in class? Unless you are in a religous school, why would the subject of religion even come up. That is unless you view science education as the "atheism message". If that is so, you're lost. I'll give you a point for trying.

      Ron C

      by Ron C on May 24th, 2009

    • I've taught. I know what goes on behind the scenes. I know that what passes as a religion-free zone is actually an atheist agenda. It doesn't have to be taught. It is the religion of public education that there is no God. It permeates every aspect of public school. You don't have to actively teach it. You just keep all religion out of schools with the message that religion doesn't have a place in education and every kid in the school hears the message loud and clear that "smart, educated people don't believe in God."

      bagicide stayed 10 months too long

      by bagicide stayed 10 months too long on May 24th, 2009

    • Keeping religion out of schools is what the constitution requires. If religion is taugh, which one and which brand would it be? Do we have to put Christian, Wiccan, Muslim, Jewish reasoning into an Algebra course to make you happy?

      I've gone to both types of schools and taugh in a Catholic high school. Except for religion and church history (very biased) classes, god and religion isn't dicussed or thought about. That is not atheist indoctrination, it's just life.

      Ron C

      by Ron C on May 24th, 2009

    • With all due respect for atheists & what they think, I just asked my 17 year old & she said religion or lack thereof is never dicussed.

      Little big mouth

      by Little big mouth on May 24th, 2009

    • Actually, RonC, I think the better option might be to stop having government sponsored schools. The constitution does not allow for government schools. It leaves the schools to the states. But the Federal government found a back way in by offering funding and tying Federal rules to those funds. That is unconstitutional. It follows the letter of the law, but violates the spirit of the law.
      Little Big mouth, if you go back and actually read my comment, I said it was never discussed. It doesn't have to be. It permeates everything.

      bagicide stayed 10 months too long

      by bagicide stayed 10 months too long on May 24th, 2009

    • Just what I said.

      Ron C

      by Ron C on May 24th, 2009

    • Blessed, Can you explain how? I really am interested in knowing, you could be right

      Little big mouth

      by Little big mouth on May 24th, 2009

    • When you create a "religion free zone" in a school, you scream loud and clear to every student that smart, educated people don't believe in God, only stupid, superstitious people believe. That value judgment gets communicated to the kids. Every subject that is taught is subject to a value judgment as to whether it gets put into the curriculum or not. The value judgment that is being applied is the religion of secular humanism. Before you laugh at that, those are the words of the founders of public education, Horace Mann and John Dewey. Those aren't my words. Read what your 17 year old is being assigned to read in school. Because the literature curriculum being used in her school is now subject to scrutiny under secular humanism, she is now being given material designed to make her "get in touch with all emotions, negative and positive." That means she is probably reading some pretty dark stuff. It isn't uncommon anymore for school district to routinely assign something on suicide, and in fact, one of my friend's kids just attempted suicide and spent a week in the hospital after reading the school district assigned book on suicide. As far as we know, he hadn't even been thinking about it before that book. When I was taking my juvenile lit course, I was appalled by what I was assigned to read. They were all nominated for the Newberry award that year, but they were so dark and depressing that it was all I could do to get through them. I went back to school as a non-traditional student at 30. At that age, I struggled to read them. If I'd even been a traditional student and 18, I might not have made it through them. If I'd been a middle school student and only 11-13, I probably either would have given up on school or reading, or I might have given up on life. The choice of reading material, the choice of textbooks, the choice of curriculum are all done through the lens of secular humanism and atheism. No book gets bought if it doesn't pass that muster.

      bagicide stayed 10 months too long

      by bagicide stayed 10 months too long on May 25th, 2009

    • In keeping with the whole "Keeping religion out of schools" thing, Atheism is also not a promoted view. While not truly a religion, speaking against a religion is still taking a stance on religion, which is not allowed. Ideally, schools simply teach provable facts, and when it comes to religion, they leave that to the children and parents to sort out.

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