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by Abbyguy on May 22nd, 2009

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Why do JW's hide the facts about Beth Sarim, a house they bought in LA for the return of the Holy ones of old, like Abraham, Mose, David etc...

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  • by xhepera on May 22nd, 2009

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    Why does any religious group hide its old errors? Specifically, since you are Christian, why do many Christian sects and denominations, from the oldest on down to the latest, hide their old errors (and many new ones)? Or at least just wish they'd go away?

    Answer that and you may answer your own question. And I have a question of my own. Why do some who claim the mantle of Christian indulge in snide attacks against those with whom they disagree instead of just coming right out and confronting their perceived "enemies" in a manner befitting an honest human confrontation? Jesus would have, I'd wager.

    p.s.: I forgot to mention two things.
    1. Beth Sarim was not in Los Angeles.
    2. I am not a Witness.

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    • Nice, unbiased answer. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Tim2:23-26;&version=16;47;9;49;77;

      Texasescimo

      by Texasescimo on May 22nd, 2009

    • You're correct, it's in San Diego, brain cramp.
      To answer your question, I have asked questions, commented with facts, and debated till blue in the face with JW's regarding, mis-interpretaions of the bible, their many failed prophecies, the outlandish beginning to the cult and the overall excentricities and arrogance of the WTS. I put forth a fact and I get attacked personaly, I respond in kind and I am then a bad person that is an apostate and there-fore should not be listened to. I present bible based theology only to be mocked because I am of the world and know nothing, I am evil.
      So I present something that I think most reasonable paople would very strange. This is just one more flaw in a long history of failed prophecy. I present it because they hold themselves up to be the benchmark, the standard by which all other religions should aspire, but when you shine a little light in the dark areas of their history it's obvious they fall short of what they preach.

      Abbyguy

      by Abbyguy on May 23rd, 2009

    • Could you be a little more specific? One thing for sure Jesus has
      not changed.
      We do not believe Jehovah Witnesses are our enemies. We just like to
      compare our message with theirs and openly discuss it.

      Doc

      by Doc on October 10th, 2010

    • Doc, you have not even told us your religion. If you don't consider JW's your enemies, why do you aften reword what is actually being said?

      Texasescimo

      by Texasescimo on October 10th, 2010

    • I can't speak for Doc, but I believe he calls himself a "Christian".

      apprentice1975

      by apprentice1975 on June 29th, 2011

    • Here is an exercise to tell if you are really a Christian. All you have to do is open your mouth and say "Praise the Lord"! If you physically can not say that you might be demon possesed, (no joke) Texascimo, I recommend you try this and ask yourself some serious questions. Remember that Christ is able to forgive sins. May God be with you.

      apprentice1975

      by apprentice1975 on June 29th, 2011

    • Most of Hitler's followers called themselves Christians as well. Do you suppose that they would open their mouths and say "Praise the Lord" while murdering their neighbors?

      German Churches and the Nazi State
      http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005206

      Photos of clergy with Nazi’s:
      http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

      http://www2.dsu.nodak.edu/users/dmeier/Holocaust/hitler.html
      Nazi Supporters
      The Nazis won their support primarily from the lower middle class and the peasantry. These voters were strongly nationalistic in their political views and feared that the depression would deprive them of their standard of living. In religion, most of the Nazis' supporters were Protestants. German Catholics remained firm in their support of the Catholic Center Party.


      http://religious-persecution.suite101.com/article.cfm/clergys_opposition_to_jehovahs_witnesses
      Roman Catholic Hierarchy of modern history had formed alliances with nationalistic dictators, such as that of the Lateran Treaty with Benito Mussolini in 1929 and the Concordat with Adolf Hitler in 1933, regarding which Cardinal Faulhaber wrote to Hitler: “This handshake with the Papacy ...is a feat of immeasurable blessing...may god preserve the Reich Chancellor (Hitler).”

      Winston Churchill, in his book The Gathering Storm, published in 1948, tells how Chancellor von Papen further used his reputation as a good Catholic to gain church support for the Nazi takeover of Austria. In 1938, in honor of Hitler’s birthday, Cardinal Innitzer ordered that all Austrian churches fly the swastika flag and pray for the Nazi dictator.
      Catholics and Protestants heard their clergy urge them to cooperate with Hitler, if they resisted, they did so against orders from both church and state.

      Texasescimo

      by Texasescimo on June 29th, 2011

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