by andblack on May 20th, 2009

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If were the results of evolution how come apes and monkey's are not giving birth to man today?

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  • by MyGiveaDamnsBusted on May 20th, 2009

    MyGiveaDamnsBusted

    My question is, if evolution were real, why would it just up and stop? We should still be evolving.

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    • We are aren't we?

      TheJoker

      by TheJoker on May 20th, 2009

    • exactly

      andblack

      by andblack on May 20th, 2009

    • We are. Everything is.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 20th, 2009

    • Who said it did stop? It took 6 million years for humans AND chimps to evolve from their SHARED ANCESTOR. Why would you expect to see big changes in centuries or thousands of years, if evolution takes hundred thousands of years to produce significant results?

      773491

      by 773491 on May 20th, 2009

    • Well last time I checked we all looked the same...noone has grown a second limb only to pass it along the blood line. We haven't evolved into being able to breath under water or fly. These accomidations would be very helpful in today's society. ANY DAY NOW EVOLUTION!!!

      MyGiveaDamnsBusted

      by MyGiveaDamnsBusted on May 20th, 2009

    • Were you being sarcastic or serious MissHoneyBee?

      773491

      by 773491 on May 20th, 2009

    • sarcastic

      MyGiveaDamnsBusted

      by MyGiveaDamnsBusted on May 20th, 2009

    • But creatures evolve to suit the environment they live in. The ability to breath underwater would do a creature that lives on the land no good. Just as humanity dispensed of a tail when they moved out of the trees. Then, eventually was able to stand upright in order to see over the long grasses of the savannah & keep an eye out for predators. You could make a case that humanity is getting increasingly large arses because we spend so much time sat on it.... sorry just felt I should lighten the mood.

      TheJoker

      by TheJoker on May 20th, 2009

    • I'm not trying to make anyone feel threatened. I have no problem with ya'll believing what you want. Have a good day guys!

      MyGiveaDamnsBusted

      by MyGiveaDamnsBusted on May 20th, 2009

    • Soz about that, bein dense today!

      TheJoker

      by TheJoker on May 20th, 2009

    • We are evolving, but not anywhere as much as we should as a whole species.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 21st, 2009

    • Well, what environmental factors are driving any evolution of our species? Since our development of societies, we've really done our best to not evolve through controlling our environment - we're not subjected to environmental changes in the same way as other species, so we have no reason to adapt or evolve.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 22nd, 2009

    • Well, we do seem to evolving huge arses for all the sitting we do :)

      TheJoker

      by TheJoker on May 22nd, 2009

    • You're about to get me asking to see your tits AND ass...lol

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 22nd, 2009

    • Well, there's an offer! Hahahaha!

      TheJoker

      by TheJoker on May 22nd, 2009

    • We have a long ways to go regarding the evolution of the mind. We also need to learn how to live in harmony with nature.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 22nd, 2009

    • That's never been a priority for us or really any other creature on earth that I can think of, so I see no evolutionary evidence that we'll go that route. Clearly the environment changes us, but we've done our best to circumvent that by controlling our environment as best we can - houses, air conditioning, cars, etc. Harmony doesn't seem to be a priority, especially for our species, not that any other species is any better.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 22nd, 2009

    • We are mammals, just like all other species on Earth. They do not worship a God. They are in tune with nature. What makes people any different? Animals do what they want. Why should people have to have a God? Most of us do not want one, but it seems that Gods, or people are always trying to force their ways into our lives. Trespassers.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 22nd, 2009

    • when it comes to being a mammal you are speaking for yourself and animals dont worship god because animals werent created in gods image, trespasssers? so i guess those evolutionist force their ideas on you 2.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 23rd, 2009

    • How are they "in tune" with nature? Plenty of species get hunted to extinction by other animals. Plenty of animals will consume so much from their environment that they no longer have food and die off. So, I agree that people are no different, but not because of some grandiose idea of harmonious living. I don't know of any species that lives in harmony with its environment, and certainly none of them see it as a priority. Surviving and procreating - that's the priority - and it's not about harmony - it's about jockeying for position as the dominant species.
      .
      When did this become about God? wtf? God has absolutely nothing to do with any of what we're talking about here.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 23rd, 2009

    • hey calm down misterknow it all so you basically saying one day we will destroy one another into extinction and your perfectly fine with that, and how many animals you know of died off from consuming so much from their environment? and the reasons i brought up god because if were not the results of evolution there can only be one other way and it's god.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 23rd, 2009

    • I'm perfectly calm, dawg. You have no idea my level of anger. Don't confuse my arguing my point aggressively for me needing to calm down.

      .
      I'm perfectly comfortable with the fact that the human race won't last forever. It's the way things work.
      .
      I'll have to get back to you on the stats on how many creatures have led to their own destruction through consumption, but insects do it all the time. Generally-speaking, extinction happens based in a change in environment, whether it's brought on by themselves or another species - it can be hard to judge which has a bigger hand in it. Ultimately, if they were better at evolving/adapting, they wouldn't be extinct.
      .
      Let me get this straight - if one scientific theory isn't correct...the only other possible explanation is God? Where did you learn logic?

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 23rd, 2009

    • many thing i know comes from the bible and my own experience, now it's very possible for animals to kill each other into extinction but its rare hey brother if you wanna know the truth take 10 mins of your busy lifestyle and read the 1st 5 page from the bible than you can try to logic.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 23rd, 2009

    • The entire OT is worthless unless you read it in Hebrew; it's been totally twisted to fit the Christian agenda. Logic destroys the content of the Bible due to the entire thing being based in circular reasoning.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 23rd, 2009

    • Many Native American tribes lived in harmony with nature. We have the intellectual ability not only to live in harmony with nature but the ability to carelessly destroy it. We should be like the custodians of Earth, keeping it clean, taking only what we need, and using science to take better care of our home planet. Money shouldn't even be an issue. Sorry for bringing up God. I had just answered a question about God and for some reason, I thought that someone had already brought it up here.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 23rd, 2009

    • No, they didn't. That's a hippie myth. American Indian tribes were constantly at war and used as much of their technology as possible to exploit their natural resources. They lacked domesticated animals and were only able to achieve so much, which is why they were so dominated by Europeans. "They used every part of the buffalo" because they didn't have an abundance of resources to afford to be wasteful; it had nothing to do with them wanting to preserve the environment. It had to do with a lack of technology and ability to exploit resources more then the little bit they were able to. You could make the same argument for any society that was lacking in technology - the Middle Ages weren't all that polluted, beyond disease, which actually occurred because people were living "in harmony" with animals, and picking up their associated parasites.
      .
      Money is an issue. Capital is based in resources and resources are limited, ergo it's an issue. "What we need" is a relative concept.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 23rd, 2009

    • I think you are just trying to justify your lack of harmonious living.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 23rd, 2009

    • No more than you're trying to justify your Utopian world by ignoring reality. I'm not justifying jack - I'm telling you how it is.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 23rd, 2009

    • Negativity attracts negativity. Nice work there Mister.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 23rd, 2009

    • Holla'.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 23rd, 2009

    • misterknowitall watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE and how i'm how i'm i a hypocrite? and would a christian man this?

      andblack

      by andblack on May 24th, 2009

    • Wow thanks black. I have just found much respect for Obama I did not know I would ever have. He reminds me of our founding fathers. Thank you. GO OBAMA!!

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 24th, 2009

    • How does Obama saying awesome logical stuff in regards to religion do anything to change the fact that you're a hypocrite? You do realize that speech was in a CHURCH and the applause was from CHRISTIANS, right? Honestly, the things you say remind me of a retard running into a door over and over because he can't figure out the knob mechanism.
      .
      I agree JC. It's like hearing Jefferson, only in this millinea. It rules.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 24th, 2009

    • you seem to forget there are fake christians in the world and whats up with the name calling? the internet is not the place. what logic are you talking about these people shut god out of their life this is exactly how they want you fool, they control you they want you to put your faith in your government. the reason they want the bible out of politic because they know the bible is good and it will prevent from doing many things. wether it's good.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 25th, 2009

    • i know your in love with obama in a few years will see how much obama loves you.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 25th, 2009

    • Mr. Black, are you an American? Then you should know that this is not a Christian country, regardless how many unintelligent fools live here. This is a nation under God. That means, Jesus, Allah, Satan, Myself, Yourself, Buddha, The Earth, or whatever other Gods the people who live in this country worship. You speak as if all who reject the "holy" bible are rejecting God, but it sounds like you are rejecting all who believe in God, except those who share the same beliefs as you. Our founding fathers are responsible for our religious freedom, and people like you are trying to make this country the way things were before we won our freedom. Are you a true American? Perhaps you should move to Israel.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 25th, 2009

    • Yeah, screw Israel. And, what name calling? Your logic sucks and each time you're beaten on one point you jump to another totally unrelated point; that makes your arguments feeble and makes you look stupid, and that's not my fault. This whole thread is a case-in-point - you talk about me calling you a hypocrite where I said nothing of the sort in this thread. You jump all over like a spastic chimp and then wonder why I might say something about your lack of intelligence? That just further proves my point. I'm glad my government is "shutting God out;" I'm happy to say my nation's laws aren't based in religion, but based in the eclectic people who live there, representing the whole. But, frankly, as I've said, your rhetoric is just ridiculous, making it impossible to debate within the realm of logical thought.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 25th, 2009

    • yes george i'm an american, and i know it's not a christian country, i'm not a christian myself but my beliefs comes from the god of the bible i couldn't care less what other people believe in i'm just dissapointed at the facts in order for a country to be great it needs to have no absolute truth or right, at the end of the day there is nothing good about that. america was built on hypocrisy and no one knows what it takes to be a true american but believe me wether your a non believer or not every damn soul in this world knows what it takes to be a man of god.that never change

      andblack

      by andblack on May 25th, 2009

    • Just remember that true men of God do not need religious texts to be men of God, just as full grown animals do not need them to be mature full grown animals. True men of God respect the Earth and live by natural law. They take what they need, and are satisfied with that, knowing that their lives are an eternity. Animals don't need saviors and neither do we.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 26th, 2009

    • misterknowitall i agree my logic do suck only because logic and truth dont mix, we can go on forever using our logics cause there is no truth to it. it's just arguments and i've realized you spend more time bashing me than getting your point across sorry i'm jumping all over but if you can't keep up stop following, and i dont care if they use a religions to create our laws, truth is your government will always lie to you and the only reason they do it is your logical thought has no absolute truth.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • i know this, i respect the earth and everything in it, and to you what are the natural laws? animals don't need saviors because animals are not the dominant species we are, until you have concrete proof we came from animals brother i tell you this "rather be safe than sorry".

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • I've spent plenty of time making my points - the fact that you aren't recognizing them isn't my problem. Religion is the lie; government is the natural evolution from religion. This is why every religion has rules which, now, are almost completely outdated. And, also, I believe there is no absolute truth.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 26th, 2009

    • Yeah, and I'd rather live my life according to what I think is right, not according to some antiquated book.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 26th, 2009

    • i dont believe in religion the bible itself does not state nothing about a certain religion and i certainly dont believe in the government; you tried to make your points by bashing me but in conclusion you end up proving me correct if you believe in no absolute truth than what point were you trying to make? but whats right if you dont know a truth from a lie. thats why the book is so special brother its very very old.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • It's very very outdated. This is a book that claims eating shellfish is an abomination and that you can stone your kids if they stray from the faith, just like my boy Barack said. That we need to believe in it or we'll be punished for not doing so. It's a book that people take figuratively or literally depending on what they need to justify at that moment. I made plenty of points a week ago before you started repeating yourself and jumping from thread-to-thread; go back through all the posts I've posted and you'll see that (since you love to jump from thread to thread and discuss things that have nothing to do with the threads you're in). I know truth from lies; the difference is that I am my own point of reference, not some outdated antediluvian text that has lost the majority of its applicability.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 26th, 2009

    • the bible cAn be interpret any way one can, now leviticus verses were pretty brutal did you know he also stated being gay was an abomination but truth is god did say eating shellfish is an abomination but there's a lot of things god told us not to but we did it anyways thats nothing new , and stoning your child if he strays from the faith basically means your child is good as dead the moment god is out of the picture theres nowhere in the bible where god had a man killed his child just cause he wouldn't believe.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • yes the book is outdated but thats what make it very great and holy have you ever read the book of revelation it's prophecies are coming to life as we speak, it can never be outdated in the eyes of god, because he does not live in time, the bible dind't come to life in a certain date , the bible started in the beginning of time, it's called the book of life for a reason. read the bible and you will see it represents past, present and future.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • anyone can no truth from a
      lie depending on
      the situation but in general the majority do not know absolute truth. and by the way brother many books men like you and i have written and read
      have dissapeared off the face of the world they did not survive wars, plagues, fires, or even a little flood and truth is the bible survive many crusades to destroy it, now why is that? if a book so out of date why is it here? and many of our political leaders dont like to use it how come they dont destroy it? they destroyed a whole lot of other books, theres only one answer and
      it is "the words of cannot be harm"

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • That is precisely what I mean; interpreting some things as figurative while other things get taken literally, depending on how you want to use it at the time. It's bullshit. And, yeah, I think the Lev line about gays is that the earth will swallow them up, which I particularly enjoyed.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 26th, 2009

    • The book being outdated is what makes it great and holy? Are you hearing yourself? How does something being unapplicable to modern life make it righteous? People have been talking about how "the end of days are happening as we speak" since, literally, the Bible was written. It can be used for any time period - it applied to Rome as much as the US - it's just not applicable as some "ultimate truth." If anything, it's as applicable as the Quran or the Tao Te Ching or the Vedas, none of which has a patent on pure truth, either.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 26th, 2009

    • The Tao Te Ching has existed just as long as the Torah/Talmud, both of which I find have far closer relation to truth than The Bible. The Bible was re-written and re-translated and transcribed to fit into what people wanted it to, and it still is. The reason my political leaders don't destroy it is because they believe in The US Constitution - there's this little thing in there about freedom of speech, thought, religion. If you want to read something sometime, read that. There are plenty of places on this planet where people do destroy all copies of The Bible, but generally-speaking the only people in the US who are into burning books are the Bible-Banging nutjobs. How interesting is that? If it was such truth, why feel so threatened by other works? Hmm. So, I just don't agree with your version of reality where logic and rationale have no application, man. It's just not how I roll.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 26th, 2009

    • mrknowitall did you know leviticus is from the old testament and the new testament was written after jesus christ death and jesus himself told us it was now okay to eat shellfish.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • Yeah, I love that - that because of the NT the OT is negated. I don't know where in the NT it says anything about eating shellfish, but truthfully, I don't believe that there is a single true direct quote from Jesus in the Bible, considering that it was passed around as oral tradition for decades before someone (not his original disciples) chose to write it down. Do you honestly think there were Jews walking around 2000 years ago named John, Mark, and Matthew? You want a kick-ass read, scope out the Book of Thomas the Contender. That's the work that makes me dig on Jesus.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 26th, 2009

    • http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/bookt.html
      Enjoy it big guy. Jesus was straight Buddhist in a lot of what he laid down.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 26th, 2009

    • oooh were back to logic again; we should kick it up another level i was tired of basic, and i knew you were going to do this to create confusion but i was looking forward to that. The tao te ching is the chinese ancient text which was written around the 5th or 6th century b.c i never read it but from what i know it is nothing like the bible, once again the bible which i assume you never read is a universal book, it dont matter what country you travel to you will find the bible wether it's heavily used or not, you can't escape it.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • meanwhile the Tao Te Ching is more of a chinese text and you wont find it in many countries.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • the bible is not threatened by no one i'm sure it's the other way around, you have to understand the bible is not logic the bible is not dismissing no one elses book the words in the bible are final no if, and or but; whoever wrote the bible had a clear understanding of the world. the torah talmud is the old testament aka as the five book of moses "Judaism" so i dont know exactly your point there.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • jesus messages were not of religion so if anyone claim jesus was a buddhist it is just their point of views because christ never told mankind there was a certain religion to follow to be in the present of god all he said whoever wants to be with the father have to go through him.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • now you state under our constitution the bible cannot be burned or destroyed well truth is the bible was there long before the constitution and it was never destroyed than so what differences would it make now

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • The only reason the bible has survived is because leaders have seen it as a tool to control. Anything that threatened their power was destroyed during the inquisition including all who did not bow down to the false Christian Gods. Christianity thrives on fear. Without it, people would find more practical beliefs. This website explains much about the true origins of the bible, and the intentions behind it's creation. http://www.exposingchristianity.com/

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 26th, 2009

    • i'm not here to bash christianity brother or any other religion christianity are people who followers of jesus christ so idk how is it a tool of control, the tool of control are our governments, the media, all those false ridicoulus teachings. what we need to expose is not based on one religion or one thing we need to find absolute truth.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 26th, 2009

    • ...Christianity thrives on fear? Naw, your wrong. You have preconcieved notions of what Christianity is...and all your facts and information is wrong. The worlds plan was to take teachings...twist them around and use it for control...YET there are still people who understand that is the exact opposite of its purpose. It is not to condemn but to set free.....most of what you know of christianity prolly stems from CATHOLICS...which their ways and rules, and laws...and whatever they teach is the EXACT OPPOSITE and an ABOMINATION TO EVERYTHING GOD AND CHRIST TEACHES. "exposing christianity"...I hate to tell you, YOU have been fooled.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 26th, 2009

    • ...As a person who actually understands the eteachings written in the book...I feel no need, or pressure...or am scared into following the ways. I am not scared of hell, of sinning, or whatever else you may assume...INFACT. As I follow the teachings and ways...it seems everything else follows also...I no longer WANT to do wrong...I dont do it cuz I havta, or am scared of going to hell...I DONT WANT TO. The word can be looked at 2 COMPLETELY OPPOSITE WAYS. What you know of the teachings is what ANTICHRISTs want you to believe...that is why being a christian is a hard thing...Even the "christians" think you are wrong.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 26th, 2009

    • Mr. Know it all...I own the tao book...Its got good stuff...and its the exact same teachings as christ taught...just worded differently....The reason it is a world known thing to "be patient, kind, gentle, understanding, slow in nager...loving...IS BECUASE IT WAS WRITTEN IN OUR HEARTS...The indians knew it...the asians...christians...people all around...I think that alone should give alittle understanding...there is an all powerful God out there. The only difference between those religions and the Bible religion...is...THERE IS ONLY 1 GOD.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 26th, 2009

    • I'm done with this. It's utterly worthless.

      MisterKnowItAll

      by MisterKnowItAll on May 26th, 2009

    • ...i suppose so, only becuase you do not listen...or desire to listen to something that is truth. But thats up to you...Im not gonna get mad at you, or yell at you...or call you stupid...becuase I dont believe you are. I am sad that the lies and deciet of the world has gotten to you. The truth hidden...and that you actually believe certain bold lies. Lies from teachers, lies from "christians" lies from religions...well maybe I shouldnt call them lies....but confusion, that is why....we live in babylon = land of confusion. Everyone is confused. Nobody knows anything. It seems like by now, ther should be an ultimate answer

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 26th, 2009

    • Great logic and arguments @misterknowitall.
      You said you 'don't believe in absolute truth', can you elaborate that?

      773491

      by 773491 on May 30th, 2009

    • yea misterknowitall whats up with that??

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • The only absolute truth is that there is always more than one side to everything. No one is right unless they believe they are right. Everyone can be right and at the same time be wrong. There is no sense in arguing with people who have no desire to change their side of views.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • well i dont argue to change no one views i argue to make them understand or give them new idea feed them wisdom not smarts, there is nothing wrong with learning from one another but at the end of the day every thing is either is based on a truth or a lie.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • Learning from one another is a good thing, but some might say that it isn't. As far as they are concerned, they are right, even though as far as I'm concerned, they are wrong. Truth is very often confused with lies, just as lies are very often confused with truth. Many people are stubborn and prefer to believe their own truth without caring to learn from others, so really they are right to themselves. In their own reality they are 100% right, but in my reality they are stubborn but I know that what they believe to be truth, is truth to them. I have my own truth. I'm feeling a bit psychedelic today.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • okay and every ones truth has an origin correct? many things you've learned were tought to you in school it's the same for me but my truth comes from the bible and my beliefs in a god, i did my own research i did not limit myself 2 anything i believe anything is possible, life has no conclusion only because there are so many who are confused.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • but i came to a conclusion to many things only using my basic thoughts and knowledge and my wisdom

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • And there you have your truth, influenced by your experiences, and the influence of the writers of the bible. I doubt you wish to change your truth. My truth is that the bible is a clever work of the occult.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • -i know there is a god
      -i know human beings are not the results of evolution
      -i know governments are not to be trusted in any way
      -i know money is never gonna buy the world peace it does the total opposite.
      -i know america is only great because it has no absolute right and truth.
      -i know people only starves to create hierarchy in society
      -i know we dont live in harmony because many people are greedy, selfish,uncaring, jealous, deceiving, liars etc...

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • and many more and you know what? none of these things were brought up to my attention in school

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • school toughts me the things they believed i needed to learn but the most important food for the mind do not come from a school.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • if the bible is a clever work of the occult than what evidence do you have to prove that?

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • I agree with most of what you said. However I believe that I am God to a degree. I rule my mind. I create my thoughts. I believe in evolution, but I am open to the idea of unknown forces having something to do with our existence. I believe that us being created by extraterrestrials is scientifically more likely than us being created by a God who never proves to us that he exists.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • With out getting into details, I will point out the meaning of the word occult. It means hidden knowledge. The gospel is exactly that to those who have not heard about it. It is knowledge that has been hidden from them. I study the occult. Once something is revealed to me, it is no longer hidden but it is still known as the occult, because to others it has no been revealed. Those who spread the gospel are in reality, revealing hidden knowledge to those who have not yet heard about it, so to those who have not heard about the gospel, missionaries are workers of the occult. Most tribal people are aware of this in their own language of understanding.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • so where are those extraterrestrials? we dont see them just like we like we dont see god you rule your mind but you dont rule nothing around you, your just here. you are god when it comes to cars, computers, reading you know and all those man made items, one of the brilliant thing is we inherit god ways we are also creators and great thinkers but we will never be a god.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • hidden knowledge dont mean nothing cause theres a lot of stuff you can't fix or make simply cause you know nothing about them the point is where do you stand in life, are you living in a world full of lies or do you stand with the truth?

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • As long as I am alive, I am the God of my mind.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • I live in the truth.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • Traditional occult is intended to reveal how to use your mind to it's full potential. The only boundaries are the ones you set for yourself. Christianity is a program created by powerful occultists to remove knowledge of the true occult. It is a prescribed way of thinking, created so that a few "chosen" people can rule the world.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • now it's easy to claim the bible was written and created by the occult, because it simply go against the things and ways you believe.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • The bible does exactly that. I see it for what it truly is, and act accordingly. We are animals, ones who are easily manipulated. Some people are aware of this and use it to their advantage in selfish ways. I do not hide the truth from people. I do not use the powers of my mind to harm others. I am the worthy keeper of the powers of my mind. You seem like a nice person, but you are still living a reality prescribed by people more powerful than you. You have not found your true potential.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • Truth will set you free. I dont feel any rules outta the bible were set up to set me back, or restrict me. Infact its opened my mind to a whole new realm, a whole new freedom...and a freedom without doubts, fears, regulations, and chains. The way it was set up wasnt to keep people from being the best they can be...infact its the opposite, its to show them the way they were intended to be.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 30th, 2009

    • Its like a computer program, you need a program to run a program...and so on, the only thing is if we are a program and we hold specific data/idea's...then who is our programmer, and how did he intend us to run...our DNA is like the little 1's and 0's

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 30th, 2009

    • Where I live, Christians are a sacrilege. They are so caught up with what's right or wrong that they are no fun to be around. Their jokes are terrible and they have no real sense of humor or any real personality. It's the christians who you have to watch your language around. It's the christians who try to influence your life without your consent through the psychic energy of their prayers. It's the christians who go around telling people that they must accept their beliefs, or spend an eternity in hell. Christianity is nothing more than a prescribed way of life. There is nothing spiritual about it. It's a tool to keep the wild animals in a cage, while the strongest animals who control what happens in the cage do whatever they please, knowing all too well that they are truly the shepherds, not some mythological superman named Jesus.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • Regarding computer programs: You are living in the matrix.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • ME?...No, LOL...You....yes.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 30th, 2009

    • You are very jaded with your preconcieved notions still. I just think you hate christians...mainly cuz you want to, it gives you purpose to feel like you are actually doing something progressive. IT gives you superior thought, which is just a self actualization. U think you know the way, but I know you know you have a hole...and dont know how to fill it. There is something missing, yet you dont know what it is. You deny it and deny it and deny it,...only to reassure yourself your way is correct. When in fact. Lying to yourself....does no good. your thoughts are recorded, everyword...heard, the ups, the downs...the good the bad. N u know, even though u hide it, theres sumpin wrong.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 30th, 2009

    • Me in the matrix, I know myself, I know people...and I undersatnd the world. Held back...by something? What is holding me back? What do I want to do, that I cant do??? I do what I want, when I want...where I want, with whomever I want...How I want...the thing is...What is it that I want? Happiness, freedom, knowledge, wisdom?...I wanna know the world, get out into it...meet people, and really do something? Go to beautiful spots? Have great friends? Raise an awesome family? Have an honorable husband by my side? - And just live right? Matrix? Naw. Not even.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 30th, 2009

    • It's interesting to me how you think you know me. You have a great outlook on life. I admire that. However, most Christians I know do not seem as happy as you. Are you sure Christianity is the way? It seems to be working for you, but it hasn't worked for everyone.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • I would like you to watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr3q6Cid1po

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • i'm not a christian, i have no religion but i'm a man of god and i do accept jesus christ as my savior, now if christianity is to control people than you have a problem with religion in general, now i'm sure your very smart in your own way but your certainly confused and your full of hate toward a group whom i assume never left one scratch on your back.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • now we can deny a lot of things but we can't deny good and evil, truth and lies. cause our life is built on these four words

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • What is evil in the eyes of some, is righteous and honorable in the eyes of another. Good and evil are a matter of perspective, but there are some things I'm sure most everyone can agree on. Trusting that the words of one book as the ultimate truth on good and evil is in my opinion, foolish. I have read the bible and there are some things in there that I think is good advice, but there is just as much manipulative garbage. I used to be a christian. It's my own fault for getting involved in the first place. I should have told those christians at my work to keep their doctrines to themselves, but my silly old curious self just couldn't resist trying new things and being interested. Little did I know that I was walking into the darkest time of my life. Now I am an Atheist and as long as I control my thoughts, I am happy. I don't fear God anymore, I am saving my hard earned money instead of donating it, I am healthier physically and psychologically, and take steps to advance in life instead of waiting for God.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • this video was interesting but overall i say it hurt the atheist community listen to the words very carefully, we like to drink, we like more than one women, and they laugh at some ones suicide and are amused by someone getting their neck cut off. now where would society be if we were living like those tribes.

      andblack

      by andblack on May 30th, 2009

    • Oh please.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 30th, 2009

    • Well george, most christians dont have the same outlook as me, becuase of the point I have stressed many times. Just becuase a person calls themselves a christian...doesnt mean they understand christianity. It is something that people don tunderstand as well these days. there are MILLIONS of people who call themselves christians...yet dont understand what Christ actually taught. It wasnt about condemning, or anything NEAR that. He was the greatist philosopher man kind has ever come across...cuz he had the wisdom of God. He knew the way, the truth, and the light. The name "Christian" has been jaded, miosunderstood...and taught wrong.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 31st, 2009

    • There is only 1 Christ, only 1 God...only 1 bible, and only 1 way...The only thing God wants is Happiness...contentness, joy, an awesome life...that is being able to feel alive. We were designed a certain way...and to find that absolute happiness...it is living that 1 way...for him, we are a servant to otherse...we are a tool for God, to help, to appease, to share, to feel, to just express....Love is the answer to all...And that has been the purpose since the beginning. Lies, Doubt, death, murder, rape, stealing, cheating, abuse, it all stems from...lack of the good inside of us....with manifestations. There is a way.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 31st, 2009

    • I admire that you call him a philosopher. I see religion as philosophy. Wow you really spend a lot of time on AB. I see you've been here for a month and a half and you are already on level 40.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 31st, 2009

    • I am not willing to sacrifice myself for anything unless I am not losing anything that is important to me and I want to do so. I hate the word sacrifice. God never sacrificed anything, but his believers preach about sacrificing.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 31st, 2009

    • I know so many people have lost their faith in God..."religion" is the main preason...they have teaught this way....this evil way, they have been a disgrace to Gods name, so many people have given up on God...only becuase of that. Lies, deciet, its the "image"...its the worst evil of this world...the "image" of God. If only that could make sense...man, I strive so hard to try and get the point across...only becuase...it hurts soo much to see Awesome people...just not get it. I get it, my intentions are so great. IF only.....If only. Lost faith, in a lost world...so lost. :.(... But I see. Its hard. Dont think its not.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 31st, 2009

    • Im on here so much...cus there are so many questions...with only 1 answer...I strive my hardest to answer all the questions I can...Its my purpose...I have the words...I have the answers, they are at my fingertips...if only...people wanna listen. There is so much in the world...I found this site...Its for me. Its what I do. The more people I can get to see...the better I feel. I do not live for just me...Never. If I can make a dent, its not through fame, fortune...doing something HUGE. But through the little things. That is the point. Communication. understanding.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 31st, 2009

    • I am pleased to be without God. I don't trust God. In fact I think that God is a creation of the human mind. I think it's better that you enjoy the belief system you chose than to not. I do best when I am in control of my own mind. When I believed in God, things were a mess. I felt like God was trying to posses me to do things with my life that I do not approve of. I felt like I was condemned for every little thing that I did wrong. God never came through for me. I wasted 5 years of my life, and another year and a half deprogramming my mind. I see happy indigenous people in different parts of the world who have a great sense of spirituality without any knowledge of the gospel. That motivates me to enjoy my life without the things that once held me back. I would rather die than to be a Christian again.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 31st, 2009

    • What works for you doesn't work for all. It's like someone who smokes pot and happens to have the right chemistry so that the effects are very beneficial. That person goes out and tells people how awesome pot is but not everyone's chemistry works well with the effects of the pot. It's better to keep to yourself what works for you, unless someone asks about it. You don't know what is best for all people, regardless of what works for you or what your religious texts say.

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 31st, 2009

    • I have a family, but I always make time...5 hours is the least I can do, We are both laid off...The time is at hand...I do what I can...with what I have. I have a great burden upon my shoulders...But it is a burden I would take any day... It works, it really does...There is a great mystery. It is intreguing. Awesome. Yet frustrating. I dunno....alot of times I feel like I waste lots of time. Just becuase. But I dont have the answers...not me alone. Never. How? Who Am I?...Just me? A Girl...but yet...I do have many answers. For ears that want to hear. But nobody understands...nor wants to. I feel, sadness.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 31st, 2009

    • Yeah, there are many ways. understanding....choices, everything is a choice. yes/no...why? but..."man"...If only I could let you see inside of me. Let the world see. Its not what works...for me. Its a revelation. I cant explain. So much....so much.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 31st, 2009

    • How long have you been a Christian for? I remember when I had the spark. It did not last a lifetime. Remember, you are not the only one who feels that way. There are plenty of people of different religions and without religions who feel the same about different things. You are not gonna change me and neither is your "God".

      Don Gorgeous George

      by Don Gorgeous George on May 31st, 2009

    • I was raised a christian...but never understood what it was about. It made no sense, I stopped believing in God. "I had my own thoughts on things. I met my now husband. After a life or death sit. Something happened 1 night. A gate was opened. I understood. IT wasnt the bible really...the stories...the commandments, nothing...just revelation. ITs like...I cant even explain. Its more than just a spark...its just absolute...freedom, knowledge...understanding, desire, and With what I know now, I dont think I could ever turn my back...no matter what. No way. I get it...too much. Way too much.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 31st, 2009

    • way way too much. Its like...everything makes sense. To much sense. Ther have been times...I could just sit back, think...understand the past, present...the future....but I cannot share many things with most people. Its alot of stuff. I dont know my full purpose...but its something. I have felt it since I was young. Im a real weird canidate for this...Cuz I am really nothing in society. But Ive been chosen I guess. That is why I cannot deny its truth. I know 100% its truth. I wish the world could see through my eyes...if only for a minute. Like I said, its almost a burden.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 31st, 2009

    • But...all of that prolly sounds crazy...I assume you think it is. Im used to it. I think it sounds crazy. Reality is nothing compared to "reality"...there is so much to life. To be alive. To feel..."that feeling"...to feel joy. Peace. Love. Happiness. Sometimes Its overwhelming. I just wish everyone could feel that way. Its not what works...cuz I have noticed all relgions want the same thing. They all go for the same thing. "perfection" "heaven" "wisdom" "peace"...but the 1st comandment is, thou shalt have no other Gods. He alone is my God. But who can understand. Do I even understand? Is it truth?

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 31st, 2009

    • I gotta get off. Its been along night. Birthday bash....n I became a legend tonight at the wright brothers. Doing the worm during vanilla ice. :S ...How cheesy. Tired, Droned, Zombie.
      Goodnight.

      schmee2369

      by schmee2369 on May 31st, 2009

    • god is bullshit and religion is evil

      Temporary Name

      by Temporary Name on March 27th, 2011

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