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You're reading Men,what do you think of American women in general? Do you believe they want too much equality in a relationship and it makes dating and marriage difficult? Would you just prefer a subservient woman with no opinions of her own, like a Stepford wife?
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I didn't mean to insinuate that all non-american women were stepford wives; and if I did I truly apologize. If you'll recall the Stepford wives were american! So why do you prefer non-american women? And are you an american? If you're not american, what country are you from and have you dated women from different countries. Thanks.
by Nancy on March 3rd, 2009
I'm not American, but I've known many _Canadian_ men who've decided to marry women from other countries, simply because the expectations of Canadian women have become so unrealistic. They expect men who are rich, handsome, perfectly masculine, perfectly romantic, and who are always in tune with her feelings, are intutive and daring, funny, witty, intelligent and muscular. While any given person can have a portion of those qualities, only one in a million will have all of them. That means there are 30 men like that in this country... so the 15 million Canadian women are after the same 30 guys, leaving the rest of us to look elsewhere.
by Langenschwert on March 4th, 2009
More for the women who are realistic to love.
by Nancy on March 4th, 2009
The problem is that there aren't many realistic women out there. I know a guy who was tired being treated like crap by Canadian women, and despaired of meeting anyone decent till he met a girl from South America. She's no pushover... she's a fiery Latina, but at least her expectations are possible for mere mortals to satisfy. :)
by Langenschwert on March 4th, 2009
Good analysis Langen, that's it exactly. There are some decent American women with realistic expectations, I'm with one now, but just not enough of them in my experience and in my opinion. I wasn't going to respond to this because I'm tired of my opinions being criticized by women, they are what they are and they aren't going to change through put downs and snide remarks. Don't know anything about Nancy, she may not be the type, but I honestly have better ways to spend my time. Yes, I am American, born and raised and dating an American now who's worth her weight in gold. A rarity to be sure...
by ThePrognosticAgnostic on March 4th, 2009
Darn this broken comment feature... keeps losing my posts. Anyway, what I was saying is that if the women here are putting you down, you're hitting close to home and that bugs them. Men's biggest mistake is rewarding the bad behaviour of women. If she's being a cow, ignore her. If she's being nice, get her flowers just for fun. Foreign women seem to be very good at spotting the good guys and remembering to treat them nicely. They're not "Stepford Wives", they're just remembering that respect is a two way street, which many spoiled women forget or ignore.
by Langenschwert on March 5th, 2009
ThePrognosticAgnostic, I guess you've had some bad experiences with some, what I like to call, Princesses; and they do have unrealistic expectations most of the time. No, I'm not one of them. I've been married to the same man for over 30 years and he knows how lucky he is! And I know how lucky I am to have him too. We work as a "team". We've lived and learned together for a long time. Things weren't always perfect, but we love each other enough to find the solution to the problem instead of just "trading each other in for a new one" and hoping that relationship would be easier. He loves that I'm a strong woman will intelligence and an opinion, but I've met men who think I'm too opinionated! I think I just have something to say and say it; so does my husband. Actually, he thinks I'm very intelligent and loves having a partner that doesn't bore him. But apparently, some men don't want a woman that they can have a good conversation with!
by Nancy on March 5th, 2009
Langenschwert, thank you. I don't think any man (or woman) should stay with someone that treats them like crap! There are many men, too, who think the same way of women where they expect too much from them; like they expect the woman always to look perfect!I think that's also wrong. And I've seen men who dominate and treat their women like crap because they also have unrealistic expectations from the media, and some from watching porn. Im' not sure what you mean when you say, she's being a cow, ignore her. I would take that to mean if she's being mean; am I correct? I don't think ignoring a woman is the way to go. If she's being a "cow" you should communicate with her and tell her exactly what you feel about the situation. That will either solve the problem by making her realize she is behaving badly, and she won't do it again; or else you'll both conclude you weren't meant for each other. Most of those "spoiled" woman became that way from their parents showering them with
by Nancy on March 5th, 2009
cont'd...too many things for no apparent reason. And it's just going to get worse unless the current economy changes people and they stop turning their children into materialistic, entitled, pampered pets!
by Nancy on March 5th, 2009
Basically what I'm saying is that if she's treating you like crap, don't give her your attention by being concilliatory. Sometimes women will throw temper tantrums in order to gain concessions from their men. I've been on the receiving end of them. Usually what a guy does is be NICER. That's a mistake. That's the time to go for a walk or something. Withdraw your attention or you validate her bad behaviour. If she's being nice/fun/sexy for no apparent reason, that's the time to do be really nice in return, validating her good behaviour.
by Langenschwert on March 5th, 2009
very well put both langen and prog.
by TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT on August 22nd, 2009
I thought my comments were very well put to TAPriceCTR.
by Nancy on August 22nd, 2009
Langenschwert, I don't know how I missed your last comment way back when, but if you're with a woman who throws temper tantrums; you're with someone who is infantile and needs to grow up. I've also seen both men and woman with a partner that treats them like crap; and the partner treats them even better in return!! I am always stunned when I see it. Makes me want to shake them and tell them that they shouldn't treat someone who treats them like crap, with kindnees; but instead should think of ending the relationship if the partner is't willing to change their behavior.
by Nancy on August 22nd, 2009
Langenschwert, your method sounds eerily familiar - it is how people are advised to treat small children and dogs. No wonder you have problems.
by Grandma Roses - my avatar is my real dog on August 22nd, 2009
You know, my problems went away as soon as I started this. It's merely a way of dealing effectively with someone when they're being a jerk. The alternative is having a FIGHT. Not that fights aren't bad fromn time to time, but it's not always best to fight fire with fire. Sometimes it's best to merely take yourself out of the equation until they cool down.
by Langenschwert on August 23rd, 2009
sometimes an adult spouse can act like a small child.
by TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT on August 23rd, 2009
'When they are being a jerk' is subjective. Maybe they are standing up for their principles, which is never a bad thing.
by Grandma Roses - my avatar is my real dog on August 23rd, 2009
there are rules to combat.... especially when your "opponent" is your spouse... and one thing you never say is "I hope to god I lose this baby" because you are mad at your spouse... that is not standing up for your principles plus it just might happen and how in hell can you expect a man to console you in getting what you wished in anger at him? seriously.... I have no clue how she expected that of me a mier 3 hours later when the doc called to say the test was wrong. I was still out on my walk chilling from the venom spewed from my elleged loved one and she called begging me to come comfort her. that is beyond being a jerk. and by the way.... I wanted the baby.
by TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT on August 23rd, 2009
Grandma, a difference of opinion isn't being a jerk. Neither is standing up for principles. Why is it so hard to believe that some women are just plain jerks? Certainly there are men that are jerks. I know a guy who put his wife through medical school (paid for the whole damn thing). After she got her degree, she divoreced him. I had a relationship that was so bad, my friends held an INTERVENTION to get me out. It was a female friend (married) who started the intervention, too.
by Langenschwert on August 24th, 2009
I think Grandma Roses is probably offended by the conversation in general and is just picking something at random to disagree with. I don't know of any females who would claim no women out there are jerks, lol. It goes for men as well.
by ThePrognosticAgnostic on August 24th, 2009
I fully admit that there are more male jerks than female.... but they closing that gap and when females are jerks.... they take it to a level men can not without getting physical.
by TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT on August 24th, 2009
True dat, true dat. : )
by ThePrognosticAgnostic on August 24th, 2009
yes, men and women can be equally bitchy/douchey. I was born in America to a Russian family. I generally consider myself American, since I was born and raised here. I can tell you that my expectations are realistic, I don't throw temper tantrums, my boyfriend and I like to keep things peaceful and rational.
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