by islamestine on July 9th, 2007

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Do u think islam is the right religion

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  • by Langenschwert on September 10th, 2008

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    No, I don't. I don't think there is a "right" religion, though some are more hurtful or helpful than others. I have no love of the Desert Faiths in general, due to the damage they have done to indigenous cultures, who already HAD their own religions. My own forefathers were Heathen before the coming of Chrsitianity to Europe, and the genocides perpetrated upon Heathen populations (by Charlemagne, for example) were horrendous. They rightly worshipped the Aesir and Vanir as their forefathers had since the dawn of our people. In Egypt, the old Gods under different names were worshipped before the coming of Islam, and in Canaan, they were displaced by Judaism. Asherah poles were cut down in Canaan, and the Imrinsul in Germany, and the Parthenon now stands as a tourist attraction rather than a sacred site. Fortunately, many modern people are returning to the ancient ways of their people, trying to undo the damage done by the Desert Faiths to indigenous spirituality. Personally, I put greater value on the Old Gods, by whatever name one calls them. There are various traditions being reclaimed, such as Asatru, Hellenismos, Religio Romana and Kemetism. I put more faith in Freya and Odin and more trust in those who follow them and who follow Apollo or Osiris or Athena or Asherah than I do in Allah those that follow him. But that's just me. Follow your own heart, and may the Gods bless you.

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      Theby

      by Theby on September 11th, 2008

    • Comments fuction is kind of screwy on AB, I lost my last attempt. Charlemagne's genocide on the Saxons and the destruction of the Imrinsul was in 772, to get you started. The Hebrew scriptures detail their destruction of indigenous Canaanite religion. For Islamic examples, you will have to research the indigenous religions from the time of Mohammed and his early followers and see what became of them. I suppose the Parsi might be a good example to start with.

      Langenschwert

      by Langenschwert on September 11th, 2008

    • I know the comments function is screwy, I've lost stuff off it before as well. I am a Muslim and don't mean to be a pain, but everyone says a lot of negative things about Islam but has anyone of you ever read the Qu'ran? I'll just say this: I can give you so many examples of scientific facts that have just lately been understood or discovered that are in the Qu'ran. I converted 5 months ago because of that fact alone. It CANNOT (not shouting, just emphasizing) be denied. It's really amazing. I asked the question for similar facts in the bible. I got nil response. Any way, just thought I'd let you know. PS There is only one God.

      Theby

      by Theby on September 11th, 2008

    • For interesting bible bits, check out the book "The Signature of God" and whatnot. It's certainly in there, but since converting from Christianity to Asatru I've not kept up on it, obviously. Those that practice Heathenism like I do tend not to proseltyze as monotheists do. The Gods call whom they will. Whatever faith you choose, be sure to read criticisms from those that are not sympathetic to your own views to get a balanced viewpoint. (con't)

      Langenschwert

      by Langenschwert on September 11th, 2008

    • Interestingly enough, our perceptions of "God" are based on earlier pagan traditions. It's just that some people saw their own favourite deity as "God" and decided to convert or kill those that disagreed. The Germanic peoples never started calling Odin "God". That's an affront to the diversity of the Divine. The Gods are many, and for some of us, they are calling.

      Langenschwert

      by Langenschwert on September 11th, 2008

    • Asaalam Aleikom, my friend.

      Theby

      by Theby on September 11th, 2008

    • Downraters STILL suck!

      Langenschwert

      by Langenschwert on September 25th, 2008

    • Downraters still suck again.

      Langenschwert

      by Langenschwert on July 2nd, 2009

    • You do know that many of the old gods demanded blood. Human sacrifice was a feature of many of the heathen religions - globally. Personally, I'm kinda glad that, for one, if my boss dies, I won't be put to death and buried alongside him "so that I may continue to loyally serve him in the after-life". Hehe! Just thought I'd mention that. ;-)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice

      Marky Mark

      by Marky Mark on August 9th, 2010

    • As opposed to Jihads, Crusades, Lynchings, Witch Burnings and Stonings? That's just human sacrifice other names. :) Yes, ancient religions sometimes practiced ritual human sacrifice. In my own religion, it was usually done as a form of capital punishment. I would not condone such actions today. Religions change over time... they are made by humans after all. Good comment, BTW.

      Langenschwert

      by Langenschwert on August 10th, 2010

    • Yes, religions do indeed change over time. Note there hasn't been a Crusade in over 700 years. Witch-burnings and Inquisitions are also things of the past. Can't say the same about Jihads, unfortunately. ;-)

      I think there are huge fundamental differences in death in war and capital punishment and death in ritual human sacrifice. In war, a warrior/ soldier at least stood a chance of surviving and he knew that death was a real possibility while practicing his 'trade'. Death in capital punishment - I'd say if justice was done the criminal got what he deserved. The same cannot be said for human sacrifice. It was usually completely innocent, non-combatants who were sacrificed, many simply because they happened to be slaves or servants of a deceased nobleman. Not quite the same thing, methinks.

      "Death in Norse Paganism"

      "Slaves were sometimes sacrificed to be useful in the next life."

      "In Ibn Fadlan's eyewitness account of a Viking funeral, there is a description of a slave girl who was to be sacrificed and who had to undergo several sexual rites. When the chieftain had been put in the ship, she went from tent to tent where she visited warriors and traders.

      Every man told her that they did what they did for their love to the dead chieftain. Lastly, she entered a tent that had been raised on the ship, and in it six men had intercourse with her before she was strangled and stabbed. The sexual rites with the slave girl show that she was considered to be a vessel for the transmission of life force to the deceased chieftain."


      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_in_Norse_paganism

      Marky Mark

      by Marky Mark on August 10th, 2010

    • There are indeed "mini crusades" being practiced today, such as violence against homosexuals in the name of religion, or the shooting of abortion doctors by fundamentalist Christians. Or the not so distant sectarian violence in Northern Ireland, all taking place in modern, Western, predominantly Christian locales. People often mingle religion and violence.

      Langenschwert

      by Langenschwert on August 10th, 2010

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