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Should Muslims and Islam be excluded from freedom of expression. We can dissect Christian God and their Jesus, but we are threatened with death if we say negative things about prophet Mohammed. Should this be allowed, or what?

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  • by The Chief on August 22nd, 2008

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    Freedoms aren't freedoms if only the chosen are allowed to have them, my friend. Then they become privileges for those in power.

    Much as we may not like what others believe, what we hold as basic rights MUST apply to all.

    I spent 20 years of my life in the military in full support of our Constitutional rights. I find it personally offensive in the extreme for those who lambast the military and despise me for having served. But ironically, my support for those rights is what allows them to do so. As has been quoted elsewhere: "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." Such is my belief in the importance of Freedom of Speech. (And our other rights as well)

    Not all Muslims threaten people with death for saying negative things about Mohammed. And lest we forget, Islam isn't the only religion out there with people who act or have acted violently against those who said anything contrary to the precepts of their religion. Most especially Christianity.

    Those who threaten others with death should be dealt with for their threats. NOT for their religion.

    And before anyone makes any accusations about Islam concerning such matters, I would ask this: is what you 'know' about Islam from hearsay or is it from your studies of legitimate and informed sources?

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    • Nothing but applauds from me. Great answer, Chief :)

      mistje

      by mistje on August 22nd, 2008

    • Well said

      jangobean

      by jangobean on August 22nd, 2008

    • My thanks, mistje.

      The Chief

      by The Chief on August 22nd, 2008

    • Thank you, jangobean.

      The Chief

      by The Chief on August 22nd, 2008

    • That opening statement is part of the reason my recruiter and I had a long discussion before I signed the papers.
      Sometimes, the US government decides who has freedom and who doesn't. That MAY conflict with the oath to, "...support, uphold, and defend the Constitution against all enemies, both foreign AND DOMESTIC".
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      I agree with your answer and I also notice that very few of the Islam-bashers have ever done any research. Myself? I spent a bit of time walking the streets of Jebel Ali and I must say that they are amongst the nicest people I ever met.

      8 Jan 2004-10 Dec 2009

      by 8 Jan 2004-10 Dec 2009 on August 23rd, 2008

    • I agree, jerv.
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      Isn't it curious,...I've met a few Muslim baggers here, but none of them seem to be the 'Christian-bashers' one would expect, given what the average American Joe believes about Islam.
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      In fact, many of them carry out very intelligent conversations concerning religion and religious differences and exhibit a FAR GREATER understanding of the Christian faith than many of the Christians that I know.
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      Things that make you say 'Hmmmmm..."

      The Chief

      by The Chief on August 25th, 2008

    • My experience is that Muslims tend to be courteous almost to a fault.
      Come to think of it, the same can be said for most non-Americans, regardless of religion.

      8 Jan 2004-10 Dec 2009

      by 8 Jan 2004-10 Dec 2009 on August 25th, 2008

    • Depends on the country and the region, but in general I agree with you on this.

      The Chief

      by The Chief on August 25th, 2008

    • Perfect! Love it :)

      Erin

      by Erin on January 29th, 2012

    • jan. any clue how the military will resolve the conflict of oaths if they are called to execute NDAA?

      TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT

      by TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT on January 29th, 2012

    • What "conflict of oaths" are you talking about, TAP?

      The Chief

      by The Chief on January 31st, 2012

    • their oath is to the constitution and the government, NDAA violates the constitution by enabling the indeffinate secret detention of citizens without public trial.

      TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT

      by TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT on January 31st, 2012

    • I'd have to look into that. I seem to recall reading about that somewhere.

      I should think that if things degrade to that extent, Martial Law would be in effect anyway.

      It won't last against civilian backlash, anyway.

      The Chief

      by The Chief on January 31st, 2012

    • no, this is not about martial law. this is blanket all times all places. any officer of hte executive branch (incl FBI, and CIA) can arrest anyone on SUSPICIAN of terrorism and hold them indeffinately without charge or trial.

      TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT

      by TAPriceCTR s son is wearing his COAT on January 31st, 2012

    • Mmmm...I understand. I looked it up. It'll strike a BIG controversy when it's used.

      The Chief

      by The Chief on January 31st, 2012

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