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by Anonymous on November 15th, 2005
Which god is the one mentioned on US coins, that we trust in? It's Shiva the hindu god, right?
by Banana Breath plays the piano on March 3rd, 2012
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does the mormon god have a beginning?
by Does it matter? on February 15th, 2011
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Is the internet proof of God's existence?
by Mister_Bromyde on December 29th, 2010
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Is it ok to have doubts about god? How fan I believe more
by Leah_P on February 3rd, 2011
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Are elephants proof that there are beings more powerful than us? Should we bow down to them and pray?
by Banana Breath plays the piano on April 24th, 2012
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by Glenn Blaylock on April 1st, 2006
What about Isaiah 43:10 AND 44:6 ?
by John Pacella on November 28th, 2005
That's interesting. Yet, you seemed to miss the part where it says "nor shall any be after Me." So before our Almighty God there was no other Almighty God and there will be no other after him... How could he have been made / created if he was always Almighty? And how do you expect to become a God (an Almighty God? (that's confusing)) if it says that no others will be formed?
by Max Power on February 26th, 2007
I find it interesting that Jehovah and Elohim would talk as if One in Ezekiel 3 when speaking to Moses. So much for the Mormon belief in Jehovah=father and Elohim=Jesus.
by Martureo on April 9th, 2009
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Gentlemen please see my comment on Whew4's answer.
by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on April 9th, 2009
Matureo where does Ezekiel 3 mention number? Where is Moses in Ezekiel?
by kitten on June 22nd, 2009
>So much for the Mormon belief in Jehovah=father and Elohim=Jesus<
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Especially since Joseph Smith taught the exact opposite.
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http://www.concernedchristians.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=42&func=view&id=78693&catid=531
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http://www.concernedchristians.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=42&func=view&id=78173&catid=531
by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on June 22nd, 2009
Kitten, I'm sorry. Ezekiel was being spoken to, just a mistake on my part. I was trying to refer to Exodus 3, but typed a bit too quickly.
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It doesn't mention number, but if one would look at the Hebrew it would appear that Jehovah and Elohim were one in the same. For example starting in Exodus 3:2 "the angel of the Lord(Jehovah) appeared... and when the Lord(Jehovah) saw him... he said I am the God(Elohim) of Abraham, the God(Elohim) of Isaac..."
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And then Jehovah starts speaking again!
by Martureo on June 23rd, 2009
So Anonymous Israel is the redeemer not Jesus?
by kitten on June 23rd, 2009
The legitimate part of the Mormon argument is that in Hebrew nouns like the word people are singular, so if YHVH is a being with multiple parts then YHVH would be singular and use the pronoun I to refer to himself.
by kitten on June 23rd, 2009
And, of course, what LDS Theologians are missing is the Trinity.
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God is one Being but multiple Persons - Three in One.
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The Mormon mind is conditioned to think, "One in Three" so trying to get them to understand the unique nature of a United Plurality is like trying to get convince a blind man that an elephant isnt' a twig (the tail), a giant leaf (the ear), a snake (the trunk) or a wall (the body). They can only see the particulars but not the universals.
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Of course the "wooden stake" Biblically to LDS arguments isn't this passage but the Sh'ma Israel which says, ""Hear, O Israel! The LORD (YHVH) is our God! The LORD (Elohim) is One!"
-- Deuteronomy 6:4
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by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on June 23rd, 2009
The literal word meanings are roughly as follows:
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Shema — listen, or hear (according to the Targum, accept)
Yisrael — Israel, in the sense of the people or congregation of Israel
Adonai — often translated as "Lord", it is read in place of the Tetragrammaton YHWH (or YHVH if you wish)
Elohenu — our God, the word "El" or "Eloh" signifying God (see also: Elohim), and the plural possessive determiner suffix "-nu" or "-enu" signifying "our"
Echad — the Hebrew word for the number 1
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They put a lot of weight on the fact that Elohenu (or Ehohim if you wish) is a PLURAL word. However, that plurality is clearly referring to the Trinity given the remainder of the Biblical narrative.
by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on June 23rd, 2009
Ehohim is a polite plural because it is always used with a singular verb. It is still a singular subject.
by kitten on June 23rd, 2009
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Wow what an amazing coincidence! It's almost as if the Trinity was interwoven into the language of God's covenant people sovereignly and supernaturally!
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;-)
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(It's been said that the Jews are a Prophetic People - even their native language prophecies)
by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on June 23rd, 2009
How does plural make 3?
by kitten on June 25th, 2009