by Cowboy-Matter of Fact on May 1st, 2008

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Does it seem the truth does not work sometimes at AB, it's not politically correct, and it can get you in trouble?

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  • by Anonymous on May 2nd, 2008

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    90% of internet users seem to enjoy - even aim for - getting into "trouble" (where "trouble" is defined as having a few people you've never met type nasty things about you for a while and revel in their boldness.) So I think AB serves it's purpose very well in that respect.
    I am increasingly starting to think that the internet is just a refuge for people who like to think that typing "The Truth" anonymously onto a screen makes them a fearless and daring revolutionary.
    I don't think this behaviour is confined to any particular political standpoint. Everyone seems to like to think they're being daring and different and against the grain by being brave enough to be "the only one" to state some opinion we've already heard a million times before anyway, from other people who also thought they were going boldly against the grain.

    I am starting to find it quite amusing to see the bravado with which people type at the end of supposedly controversial answers "Come on bring on the downrates, I can take it!"
    Truly, our ancestors would be proud...

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    • I understand. I will say there is a wide range of temperment at different sites. I look at a lot of political blogs, and post at some. At some sites it is very civil and the conversation stays on an intelligent and well mannered plane for the most part. At others it is no holds abrred all out war of words with name calling prevelant. I enjoy both types of sites.

      Cowboy-Matter of Fact

      by Cowboy-Matter of Fact on May 2nd, 2008

    • I think I'm just starting to get weary of people who seem to think that risking downratings, penalty boxes and the odd insult is something to boast about. I just wish I could take them somewhere where stating an opinion can get you thrown in prison, tortured, or killed - I wonder how many of the self-proclaimed "controversial" types would be willing to brave that. I guess I'm feeling a little cynical tonight.

      Anonymous

      by Anonymous on May 2nd, 2008

    • Good answer.

      Yarnlady is happy every day

      by Yarnlady is happy every day on May 2nd, 2008

    • Excellent answer -- and you've hit the nail right on the head about the motivation for these "truth campaigns" -- it's about ego. The desire to "be somebody"... "I the Truth-Teller(tm)!" It's really a reaction to a weak sense of self, attempting to shore up one's personal importance by posturing as a hero of the truth.
       
      The temptation is there for all of us, but the quality of the dialog that emerges on both sides of those "debates" is very low, in general.

      Brand Y

      by Brand Y on May 2nd, 2008

    • I suppose my question might be looked in from different perspectives then. On the one hand it seems it is a flawed question, perhaps not a good one. On the other hand any question that inspires thoughtful response and useful commentary is a good question in some respect.

      Cowboy-Matter of Fact

      by Cowboy-Matter of Fact on May 2nd, 2008

    • Well I think there's an element of truth in lots of things... yes, "political correctness" is a problem, and certainly the truth isn't our top priority much of the time. But how does it "get you into trouble"? Unless one is being pboxed for telling the truth (which can happen, but usually that's not the whole story), the implication of the question is "we truth-tellers get beat up by those who are politically-correct". If that's the implication, it's clearly self-serving and heroic.
       
      It's very difficult sometimes, but I usually try to include myself in any criticism of general behavior, i.e. "why do we hate being criticized" is a lot more honest than "why do those people hate being criticized". The latter is about self-promotion, the former is self-inquiry.

      Brand Y

      by Brand Y on May 2nd, 2008

    • Well - the thing is, I think you can get into an equal amount of "trouble" for BEING politically correct. There is a very large "non-PC and proud" party who are equally likely to cause trouble for those who disagree with them. And I don't believe either side of that debate has a monopoly on truth, and they're both as self-righteous as each other.
      I would, I'd like to note, include myself in this at times - none of us is immune from our own egos after all. But I wish people would recognise it for what it is and stop congratulating themselves all the time.

      Anonymous

      by Anonymous on May 3rd, 2008

    • Cowboys - I think most questions are flawed in some way, asking this type of question you have to ask from a certain standpoint, so it will always come over as biased (it's interesting that generally we only recognise bias when it goes against our own views - we all like to think we arational, reasonable people with lots of common sense, and the people on the other side are the illogical ones) - but that doesn't mean you shouldn't ask. The question, I think, is more interesting than any of the answers, including mine.

      Anonymous

      by Anonymous on May 3rd, 2008

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