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by Michael Barker on July 23rd, 2005

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Is their any reliable, independent evidence for the existence of Jesus of the new testament as a historical figure?

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  • by Scoundral on July 31st, 2005

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    No. The only "evidence" of his existance is religious, and therefore biased, unreliable, and dependant.

    Unfortunatally, for mankind, the two sides of this debate have an unusual connection. In most debates, evidence is pulled to-and-fro between the opposing parties until one side establishes/abolishes it. But Christianity has grown too powerful and frankly too unreasonable to continue any form of debate with them. Anything that the word "Jesus" touches is snached so fast by the Christian churches as "fact" that the rest of the world doesn't bother to pull it away and say "oh well, more fuel for their fire". It's not worth trying to disprove the Bible anymore because the religion is something that doesn't require facts, only faith.

    It's futile to play a rebuttal against someone who doesn't need facts for their case. The only peace can come when non-christians stop trying to disprove christians and christians stop trying to convert non-christians.

    Edit: read above response to Thom's answer. The pressence of side-effects is not the presence of effect. There is plenty of side-evindence to support evolution, but if that alone could prove it we wouldn't need creationist religions.
    King Arthur, Merlin, and the story of Camelot had books written of it by people who claimed it really happened. Plato's writings of Atlantis claim it really existed. Homer's writings of the Trojan War claim it really took place. But are any of these in history books? No.

    History relies on believing, and only 11% of the world beleives in Jesus... so he is not a historical figure.

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    • I feel sad for you. must be a terrible way to live, not knowing God loves you.

      wfbrad

      by wfbrad on January 6th, 2006

    • Question asked for evidence. History does not rely on belief. Dismisses evidence by defining it as religious.

      IntellectualCritic

      by IntellectualCritic on August 25th, 2005

    • Subjective definitions and conclusions based on rejection of and lack of experiential knowledge shared by millions.

      TulsaDavid

      by TulsaDavid on October 12th, 2005

    • Fictional charagters are generally known as that. There are other historical sources that mention Jesus.

      Shabba

      by Shabba on October 12th, 2005

    • Just because you believe Jesus didn't exist doesn't mean he didn't exist!

      qballz

      by qballz on November 5th, 2005

    • Best to be wary of anyone who stereotypes a group like that so they refuse to hear what they have to say.

      Joshua Zambrano

      by Joshua Zambrano on January 28th, 2006

    • Your answers always seem to be illogical & overwhelmingly incorrect. NO COOKIE FOR YOU

      Answers101

      by Answers101 on March 12th, 2006

    • i would assume you are comfortable calling yourself an ANTI-Christ. either way i do pray for you.

      TheJONQ

      by TheJONQ on September 3rd, 2006

    • I totally agree with the post above. There is no possible way to sway the opinion of someone who believes in the super natural. Christians believe that Their god is the only and right god, but how do you account for 84% believing other religions?

      seisho

      by seisho on October 4th, 2006

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