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by Doubly Ugly on March 9th, 2008
Can God bring evil to an end?
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Does it bother Christians that Jesus looks like a Manson Family Member?
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A person is too devoted to God when in hard times , but forgets God when he acquires wealth and fame - Agree or disagree?
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Do you think god feels guilt over all the millions of people he killed?
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You're reading Can someone please tell me why they logically believe in GOD? I'm having troubling believing in GOD from a logical point of view.
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interesting line of thinking.
by JAMMco... its complicated... on March 11th, 2008
That's called "Pascal's Wager."
by HungryGuy on April 5th, 2008
iwas going to say this. you beat me'
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on April 5th, 2008
Sorry :-)
by HungryGuy on April 5th, 2008
well at least the point got across
hope you all are well =)
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on April 5th, 2008
I'm rather well, thanks! Just busy. I just sold my house and am packing up to move next week.
by HungryGuy on April 5th, 2008
lucky you. i want to move out soon
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on April 5th, 2008
I don't need such a big house (it's a money pit), and I'm moving closer to my job.
by HungryGuy on April 5th, 2008
i just want a small house w some friends. or an apartment w some. problem is that houses are so freaking expensive - even to rent!
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on April 5th, 2008
That sounds nice! Get a bunch of friends and rent a big old house together :-)
by HungryGuy on April 5th, 2008
i'd love to. we'll see how this summer turns out.
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on April 5th, 2008
And what if you waste your whole life being a Christian monk, never eat delicious food, never do fun stuff, never have sex, and then you just die? Or you go to hell anyways, even when you lived a very happy life, because Christianity was wrong, and Taoism turned out to be the right religion? You should include these cases in your scenario.
by 773491 on April 5th, 2008
i'm not a christian, and i don't believe i could deal with monasticism.
anyways - if taoism believes in a hell, i think i missed that part
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on April 5th, 2008
773491 - They're covered by Cases 3 and 4. In the long run you're dead, and you don't get eternal torment or eternal paradise. You can live (!) with those consequences more easily than screwing up 2 and seeing that you're not getting 1!
miri and hungryguy. I knew the idea came from a philospher, but I couldn't remember who.
by Doubly Ugly on April 5th, 2008
at least you remembered the important part =)
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on April 5th, 2008
Very good answer....But how to live a devout life in your obinion???
by Ahmed_225 on February 19th, 2009
well, if you lived your life in anyone else's opinion, it wouldn't be worth it
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on February 19th, 2009
This is not to live in ones opinion. If it were up to many, there would be no opinion, there would only be fault.
GOD is real!
by Joy to the world on February 19th, 2009
i didn't say he wasn't real
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on February 19th, 2009
The only way to believe in the logic of GOD. You must have faith,
peace of heart/mind/spirit despite the troubles of ones life.
There is a process to having the feelings I've described..
First of all, if you truely want to belive. Pray, repent, give him control of your life. He will not let you down, only self can do that. There are troubles, some so great that it seems worthless
I know, but never give up.
I will ask, have you ever been to church?
by Joy to the world on February 20th, 2009
god most certainly doesn't exist.
by 773491 on February 20th, 2009
i've been to church
i'm not christian
i believe in god
i'm not going to shove that thought into anybody's throat if they're not going to swallow it
god gave us free will too
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on February 20th, 2009
773491 it is up to you in the end about what you believe(NOT that I am agreeing with you). I'm not trying to push nothing in peoples throats, I am only stating my beliefs. Yes, GOD gave us free will, but I am not waisting my free will to deny what I know in my heart. What makes You so sure there 773491?
by Joy to the world on February 20th, 2009
i'm sorry, i didn't mean to imply that you were shoving your beliefs upon others, but my point is that people think they're right. of course. if they thought they were wrong they would change their mind. so, if i think i'm right, anybody has the right to ask me why, and share not enforce their thoughts as well. 773491 must obviously believe they are right in believing in no god, and if they choose to share their reasons as to why, so do we. but not with the goal of making them change their mind.
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on February 20th, 2009
Thats ok. After all, like I said... It is up to the individual.
We all make our own choices in life, I've simply made mine.
Have a good one miRi
by Joy to the world on February 20th, 2009
you too joy24 :)
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on February 20th, 2009
The same reason why you (at least I assume so) don't believe in unicorns or flying teapots. There is no evidence. Additionally, how does something as complex as god just pop into existence? A being capable of designing a universe, answering prayers and bending the laws of physics would have to be very complex. If I say DNA (or something similar) was formed by chance, you call me stupid. Yet you claim that god, the most complex thing I can think of, was just always there? This just doesn't make any sense.
by 773491 on February 21st, 2009
Simplicity leads to complexity, like in evolution, the 'prime mover' was something like energy or a quantum fluctuation, not a conscious entity. Yeah, it's hard to image something coming from nearly nothing, but it's even harder to imagine everything and more already being there.
by 773491 on February 21st, 2009
And even if there was some sort of creator, why would it be the Christian god? Why would he pick us, one of millions of species on a planet orbitting one of hundred billions of stars in one of hundred billions of galaxies? Existing since 200000 years while the universe is 13.7 years old? Jesus arguably lived 2000 years ago, this is pathetic if you compare it to space time.
by 773491 on February 21st, 2009
Those are my reasons, and I think I can justify my claim made above so that it doesn't sound arrogant. I do however agree with what you two have said, everyone is entitled to have their personal believes. But as soon as those believes become the foundation of terrorism, indoctrination, intellectual discusstions, oppression of women in islam, teaching of creationism in school) they loose all their priviledges and should be openly challenged.
by 773491 on February 21st, 2009
Christianity has nothing to do with the harm of ones being! The only reason you would see anyone harmed from it is because of so many against it that they would harm another in the name of Christianity(putting the blame on them)Just because they wanted GOD to show himself to them.. That is selfish.
GOD chose us because, Yes he loved us. I know you are going to question that. The only reason it looks as though he does not care
is only ecause People say he don't. You don't listen to human, we are all born as "sinners", but that is the reason Jesus died on the cross, so that everyone could be saved. And not doomed to eternal torture.
by Joy to the world on February 21st, 2009
Again though, it is only a choice you make, and I figure you've made yours.
by Joy to the world on February 21st, 2009
side note as far as women being oppressed, it happens in many countries in many religions in many cultures and you also find in those same religions women being liberated on another side of the spectrum.
i agree, that some of THE WORST crimes committed have been done in the name of religion, but that doesn't make the religion itself evil. doesn't make it perfect, but most certainly not evil (any religion can be placed in here). but those who follow it, or twist it to make it fit their personal gain...they're bad.
and i don't personally believe christ died on a cross so that i can get into heaven simply because i believe in him. that's an entire different story. mainly my point is that no matter what religion you look into you will find a huge difference somewhere between the faith and the followers.
by miRi hates social norms and regulations on February 21st, 2009
Yes, I agree with you. So many times people have committed crimes in the name of religion/GOD. But all it is, they are either raised that way-with the wrong impressions, or too cowardly to admitt they are at fault! It is just too easy to blame another.
by Joy to the world on February 21st, 2009
read the bible, read the Qu'ran, both books are horrfying. If people literally believe what's in them, they will kill each other. That's the sad truth.
by 773491 on February 21st, 2009