by Bowhunting Redneck on January 27th, 2008

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How do all of you feel about people owning guns , that are not using them for hunting?

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  • by judgebill on February 3rd, 2008

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    Guns are pieces of machinery which, like most machinery, can cause harm if mis-used. The ownership and study of firearms provides historical insight to the industrial revolution in western civilization. Owning a gun (or guns) is no more or less significant than owing knives or hammers or screwdrivers or pliers. There is absolutely nothying inherently "wrong" with owning anything. There is something wrong with using anything to deliberately, or negligently hurting another, even if you deliberately drop a bowling ball on their foot. Maybe registering bowling balls will be helpful?

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    • Bowling balls weren't invented with the sole purpose of causing bodily harm.

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on February 3rd, 2008

    • More than causing bodily harm, guns where invented to feed people. They became a weapon, & besides, first the gun must be loaded to become a mechanism for bodily harm, making the people more dangerous than guns????? I own many, I will own many more too!

      Johnny

      by Johnny on November 3rd, 2008

    • And, usually, what is the first thing out of a person's mouth when someone has been accidentally killed by a gun?
      "I didn't know it was loaded"

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on November 3rd, 2008

    • Wow! You don't suppose that proper education on firearm safety would help reduce, if not eliminate firearm accidents. And, speaking of accidents, more people drown in swimming pools every year than are accidentally killed by firearms. Perhaps we should register swimming pools.

      judgebill

      by judgebill on November 3rd, 2008

    • Part of logical gun laws and registration IS proper education on firearm safety.

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on November 4th, 2008

    • Registration has NOTHING to do with how to use one or how to be safe. I live 45 minutes from any kind of law enforcement, & because of the cut backs we have no deputy in this area, so owning a gun is just plain logic. Teaching proper respect for human life is maybe the most important thing & THAT must be taught by the parents.

      Johnny

      by Johnny on November 4th, 2008

    • If I fill up my car with gas, then someone gets in it & pulls it out of gear & it rolls down a hill & hurts someone, is THAT because it was loaded? It damn sure isn't the cars fault or the maker of that car.

      Johnny

      by Johnny on November 4th, 2008

    • I'm not really sure what we're arguing about. We both think that gun safety should be in the forefront of proper gun control and guns should only be used when absolutely necessary.

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on November 4th, 2008

    • Correct, but registering a firearm does not teach anything, that is what I am saying. Too many want to think that this is one of the answers to gun safety or holding the firearms maker resposible for the stupidity of another human.

      Johnny

      by Johnny on November 4th, 2008

    • But, it does make sure that it's known who holds dangerous weapons. What happens when a bank is robbed and they find the gun used but can't figure out who used it because it's not registered?

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on November 4th, 2008

    • This is an interesting argument that frequentlyl comes up in support of registration. My question is, why would the bank robber discard his/her gun? The mere registration of a gun in somebody's name doesn't make it possible to find that somebody if the gun is used in a crime. You have to first find the gun. And, if perchance the gun is not registered (nobody seriously expects criminals to register their guns) even finding the gun won't help many times. What registration will do is make it easy for the military and other governmental agencies to locate all honest gun owners should they ever decide to confiscate guns. Or, heaven forbid, tax them. How about an annual tax on guns?

      judgebill

      by judgebill on November 4th, 2008

    • It's not whether or not the robber MIGHT drop the gun. If the gun is found, we need a way to find who owned it. And it's not a question of IF it's registered. Every time someone purchases a gun, it should be a requirement for it to be registered, whether or not the buyer may or may not be a criminal.

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on November 4th, 2008

    • OK this is how much it helps, I had a firearms stolen, never recovered by the police even though it was in fact registered, BUT three years later I found it in a pawn shop, STILL nothing could be done to get it back & it was registered, USELESS!

      Johnny

      by Johnny on November 6th, 2008

    • POINT is anyways, A criminal isn't going to register a weapon they may or may not use in a crime. Finding who had owned the weapon does nothing to find the person responsible for using it. Most cases, the gun was either stolen or picked up on the streets. I have worked in, around, & with law enforcement & I have seen this way too often. NO form of registering is going to help this.

      Johnny

      by Johnny on November 6th, 2008

    • Well then it shouldn't be an issue if the criminal WANTS to register it or not. It should be mandatory for every firearm sold. That's what I said from the beginning. Of course they're not going to if they don't have to!

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on November 6th, 2008

    • Their not going to EVEN if they have to, That's the point! That is the problem SIMPLE MINDED thinking! If a dead beat dad isn't paying child support, but it is mandated, YET he doesn't, if a person has a bench warrant on them, they still do not show up in court, if a criminal wants a gun, they will get it & I assure you they most likely aren't registering it. Make all the new laws you want to & this isn't going to change. All this will do is make outlaws out of honest people & do nothing to stop criminals.

      Johnny

      by Johnny on November 8th, 2008

    • Well then harsh penalties should be enacted on top of mandatory gun registration. If you own a gun that isn't registered, you should suffer the consequences. Tell me, what is your problem with having registered guns?

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on November 8th, 2008

    • The notion of gun registration usually comes from the minds of people who do not own guns. If you don't own something, why do you care about those who do? Why would you make rules which do not effect you personally? Mind your own business.

      JohnOBonno

      by JohnOBonno on October 25th, 2009

    • Are you serious?
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      If you don't have your car registered, I couldn't give less of a crap. Guns, on the other hand, are dangerous and need to be registered so that I know that there is some accountability to owning a violent weapon.
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      Again, what is the big problem with just registering your weapon? Seems to me that you've got something to hide.

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on October 26th, 2009

    • Yes I am serious.

      JohnOBonno

      by JohnOBonno on October 26th, 2009

    • Again, what is the big problem with just registering your weapon? Seems to me that you've got something to hide.

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on October 26th, 2009

    • Okay, let's put this in another perspective. Would you feel comfortable, in this country, if the ONLY people who had guns were the military and the police? Because if everybody registers their guns, that's the only people who will ultimately have them. Along with registration will come taxation...to pay the cost of the registration. Then come regulations as to how many and what kind someone can own. Then come rules about where they must be kept. Finally we'll have them "stored" in police lockers and to use your gun you'll have to go to the police dept to pick them up and use them...but only with appropriate permission. And so it goes. Is this what you're looking for?

      judgebill

      by judgebill on October 27th, 2009

    • I don't have to answer the question of something to hide or not. It's none of your business. If every time someone strange to you wants to know what youy are doing, do you fall for that trick? *You must have something to hide* The bottom line is, it's none of YOUR business. Leave people alone and they might leave you alone, keep pushing and you get what's coming to you.

      JohnOBonno

      by JohnOBonno on October 27th, 2009

    • Why would registration ultimately lead to the only people having guns being the police and military? I never said that people didn't have the right to own guns, I'm only saying that all guns should be registered.
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      Paying the cost of the registration should be part of buying the gun, why would this lead to taxation?

      Zebulon

      by Zebulon on October 27th, 2009

    • Zebulon, each and every point you offered has been consistently and clearly answered here. I don't understand what is so difficult for you to understand!
      Crooks do not buy weapons legally, so registering them is useless. You can't trace a criminal and his illegally acquired gun by a legal registration of the weapon. All you can find out is who originally purchased the gun. Period.
      Legal weapon owners have a rational fear of goverment tracking and confiscation of their weapons. They have nothing to hide. They will never commit crimes with their weapons. They usually learn the safe way to handle and use them at an early age.

      Jewel

      by Jewel on October 27th, 2009

    • Taxation is clearly something that can be done. In fact, everything listed in these answers have happened somewhere. It isn't just speculation. Including taxation, and police and military being the only ones allowed to own guns.
      BTW, vehicles are much more deadly, misused and numerous than guns. Registration hasn't helped curb that. Yet you seem to have no fear of who is driving 2 tons of steel and gasoline toward you at 60 MPH. Registration doesn't garantee that the auto drivers are capable, know the rules of the road, had enough sleep, aren't drinking, have good tires, etc. Why would registering a gun make it any safer? It wouldn't. It would only make it easier for LEGAL gun owners to be tracked.

      Jewel

      by Jewel on October 27th, 2009

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