by Jasumi on September 5th, 2007

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Is Christianity a fear-based religion?

The prospect of going to Hell seems to be the only thing keeping Christians from turning away from this religion. I'm not saying Atheism is the truth, but Christians seem to be living a life of only fear.

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  • by Inspector Javert on September 5th, 2007

    Inspector Javert

    Beleive and worship or burn.

    Yeah, I think you could fairly say that.

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    • Only if you're devoid of any real understanding of the gospel of Christ or the holiness of God. What more do you want God to do? Because man has rebelled and fallen into gross wickedness (murder, rape, oppression, slavery, lying, looting etc), God has given us the Bible that we may know the truth, He has sent His only begotten son to atone for our sins and He will send the Holy Spirit to dwell within us to teach and change us from our sinful selves into men of virtue. It seems that you're unhappy that God hates evil and will punish those who choose wickedness over righteousness. You've got a problem with justice inspector.

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 21st, 2008

    • So, because the first two people did something stupid, the entire world has to pay? Every single billion person must pay because of what some two people did? Really? That's fair? I mean, you can say that God's done this and that - but really, you must have some ounce of snese in you. I'm not unhappy that God thinks this or that - there is no God. You say I have a problem with justice - so some insignificent FINITE sin is wrothy of an ETERNITY of punishment!? Some sense is needed here.

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 21st, 2008

    • Inspector, no one is going to pay for the sins of someone else (wherever did you get this silly idea?). We are going to answer for the sins WE have committed. You're certainly free to declare you don't believe in God but you must realize how foolish it is to declare there is no God. The cold hard facts are we don't know how life started here on Earth. As for how existance began, don't you unbelievers pause even a little that the current theory is that what has become the universe and all that is in it had a beginning (in the big bang). This doesn't mean the Biblical account is correct but it remains life and matter are here and there is no concrete proof of how they started.

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 21st, 2008

    • And just what is insignificant sin? A great many people have no problem with killing a baby in the womb, getting drunk or sleeping with anyone who will have them. Others with colder hearts thing nothing of raping a woman or bashing your brains out to get your wallet. So, again, just what is insignificant sin?

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 21st, 2008

    • Hypothetically, what if there was someone who never in their life sinned? Ever? But they were not religous in anyway, would they be shipped off to hell? And seeing as how there is no evedience or proof at all there is a God, I see no reason at all to beleive in a deity. Give me evedience, any at all, and we'll talk. By the way, do you beleive that Santa exists? I mean, what proof have you that he doesn't?

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 21st, 2008

    • And as for that last part, you've lost me, I'm afarid. The materials always existed, or rather the energy has always existed in some form - the Big Bang was merely a changing of the energy. And I'm not a quantum scientist, so really, you'd have to talk to one of them. And abortion isn't a crime, it isn't killing a child - it's a fetus, for the billionth time. And those, while horrible things, still, my point remains - do they really, honestly deserve to burn forever and ever and ever?

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 21st, 2008

    • Ah, but wait! They can do all that, anyone can do anything - rape, kill, maim and murder, they can do that all the want, so long as they tell Jesus they're sorry! Then, Heaven for them. So fair. And insignificant - they are all FINITE. That is the point.

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 21st, 2008

    • inspector, there is a great deal of circumstantial evidence of the existance of God from the dramatic changes in the lives of sinners who come to Christ to how those who practice the moral lessons of the Bible prosper significantly more than those who pursue what God calls wickedness to the incredible complexity of things like the human brain or eye. Then there is the life of Jesus Christ. Normal men do not walk on stormy seas, they do not cure diseases like leprosy with just a touch nor do they walk around being witnessed by hundreds after they have been crucified.

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 21st, 2008

    • As for your take on abortion, methinks you need to retake biology and take a look at pictures of what a fetus looks like at various stages of development. A fetus isn't a hunk of disposable tissue but is a little boy or little girl in development and the God you deny knew them before they were in the womb.

      And inspector, if you choose to be an atheist so be it but you are woefully uninformed about the Bible because so many of the things you've stated have no Biblical foundation whatsoever.

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 21st, 2008

    • I've seen a fetus with my own eyes - it's not a baby. And you really need to read your Bible, again. And there is no evedience of God, and if the only thing you can bring up is circumstantal, then, well - you're pretty much scerwed. And because people do a 180 doesn't mean there's a God, it just means they've had a change of heart.

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 21st, 2008

    • And it's something called /evolution/ - the eye didn't just magicaly appear as it is now, it was developed over thousands and millions of years. It seems you're the one who needs to go back into Bio. And if Jesus really, honestly did all these things, then why don't we have writings about him from the time he was alive? Not several decades after his death, but now? And writings about the crucfixction, if that bit really happened - where are the reccords, eh?

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 21st, 2008

    • Although mirco-evolution is well established, you must realize there are huge problems in the theory of macro-evolution (like no evidence what-so-ever that one species has ever evolved into another) or how life originated (again, no proof what-so-ever that life started spontaneously and every experiment ever attempted to test this theory has failed to produce life which, if you believe in the scientific method, means you have to reject it).

      BTW, there are references to Jesus Christ independent of the Bible.

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 25th, 2008

    • Micro-Evolution can't continue to happen with out Macro happening. And yes - WE HAVE FOUND THEM. Maybe you should look. And how life came about has absutly nothing to do with weither or not life evolved. As for how it did come about, I can not give you the nitty-gritty of it all, so you'd have to look for someone who can truly explain it. And there are references, but again, none of them are CONTEMPORARY. If he really did x, y, and z, it'd be written about all over the world, during the time he lived.

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 25th, 2008

    • Notable changes within a species can't continue to happen w/o changes between species happening? Shirley, you can't be serious. I keep waiting for concrete proof of one species turning into another and none comes. Yes, skeletal remains are on occasion found where those committed to the theory of evolution will claim is a 'missing link' but for a change to last you have to realize there must be a sustainable population to embrace the change. We should be finding thousands of like skeletal remains with the same characteristic and we aren't. And if macro evolution is true feel free to explain the Cambrian age.

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 25th, 2008

    • Over enough decades, it would. And why do you ask me to explain all these things, when you know as well as I, that I am no Biologist? Why not ASK ONE OF THEM?

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 25th, 2008

    • As for your comment on Jesus, he was known as far as Rome which, at the time, was the ruler of most of the known world. Doesn't that count? And don't be so sure the powers that be would want to broadcast what Jesus was doing as it was quite upsetting to the established religious and political order.

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 25th, 2008

    • No. Beleive me, word would spread to Rome, and the East at that time wasn't that horribly off. And they controled most EUROPEN lands. You must remeber other things were going on, like, I dunno... China, maybe.

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 25th, 2008

    • You're the one committed to a theory that is dramatically short on facts and laboratory confirmation. A theory whose proponents insist be considered science despite being unable to prove even a single example of one species turning into another. Do you have any idea how complicated a DNA strand is? Do you have any idea how complex the human brain is? Can you seriously believe that either developed by a series of gradual, incremental changes? And again, explain the Cambrian age.

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 25th, 2008

    • Do you know what a SCENTIFIC Theory is? If so, please tell me. Really, there is a difference. Yes, I know how complex DNA is, how complex the brain is - but that doesn't disprove anything, it only shows what a beuatiful process it is. And no, I can't just beleive it. I need facts, data and evedience, and such is provided - I ACCEPT it as a FACT. And once again, why not ask a biologist? Again, I am not one, I can not explain it satasfactorly.

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 25th, 2008

    • You keep speaking about a beautiful process that is repeatedly shown to be bad science. In science we look for facts, not speculation. If a theory is proposed it is tested to see if it has validity. When a theory is proposed that fails to ever get laboratory verification and is lacking in compelling substantive evidence that it is true, the critical thinker would dismiss it for the fraud that it is. And for the last time, would you care to explain the Cambrian age because what happened was an explosion in complicated life where before there had been very simple cellular life. It defies the theory you choose to believe.

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 25th, 2008

    • It's been proved, again. How many times must I say this? When has it EVER been disproven? Please, show me. And for the third time - I am not a Biologist. I do not have a Major in it. I have not studied it in depth. Ask someone who has, because they will give you a much better asnwer then I ever could.

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 25th, 2008

    • You keep saying it has been proven without providing any proof. Where has it been disproven? Inspector, you have it bassackwards. When a theory is proposed it is incumbent of the adherents of the theory to provide verifiable evidence for their theory and if it is true, we should be able to verify that in the lab. To date, no existing species we have ever studied has developed into another species. Not once. Experiments to show that life could develop spontaneously under the right conditions have produce life to the tune of zip, nada, zilch. Kind of embarrassing don't you think?

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 25th, 2008

    • Proof? Check the National Academy Of Sciences. Or are the Godless scientists just full of it? I see no reason why you can't look it up yourself, from ANYWHERE. And a Scentific Theory is one that has been examined, and tried, over, and over, and over, and over, and over, until they've done it so many bloody times, there is no doubt. I don't hear you rasing hell over the Theory of GRAVITY.

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 25th, 2008

    • And we have seen them change slowly, and have found fossils of past species. And again, I can not tell you much on the orgins of life - speak to (You guessed it!) an expert in the feild. And no, it's not embarrasing. Science isn't perfect, and never claimed to be - it studies, and researches, and searches for the truth. They find it. Religion is assbackwards, however. It gives the conclusion first, then goes to find crap to support it. Guess what - they don't find aynthing.

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 25th, 2008

    • Inspector, your lack of the knowledge of the Bible allowed you to make a statement like "Beleive and worship or burn. Yeah, I think you could fairly say that" which for anyone who has actually bothered to study the Bible would know was ridiculous. You continue to show the same lack of knowledge regarding evolution. Practice what you preach and use a search engine and type in both scientific evidence for evolution and scientific evidence for creation and start reading. The theory of gravitiy is proven. The theory that one species evolves into another has never been observed. Notice a difference?

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 26th, 2008

    • And with that Inspector, I am going to shake the dust off.

      BondiHarry

      by BondiHarry on January 26th, 2008

    • God says if you do not belive in him, you will go to Hell. God said the only way into Heaven is through him, so if you don't worship him, again, you're screwed. And the Theory of Evolution is called "The THEORY" for a reason.

      Inspector Javert

      by Inspector Javert on January 26th, 2008

    • Actually evolution has been convidered a Scentific fact for quiet some time now. Natural selection is why there are so many sub species of diffrent animals. And how do you explain Humans and Dinosaurs did NOT exsist at the same time also how dso you explain there were at one time 2 species of humans cromagnins wich we evolved from and neanderthals and in the bible is says suffer a witch to not live basicly it tells you to kill any follower of Wicca because they respect nature because they belive in a balance between the masculin and the feminine they do not worship the devil they don't even belive in him and guess what your symbols and holidays are just rip offs of theiers with the meanings changed to fit christan purposes

      Darren_O

      by Darren_O on December 6th, 2010

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