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by Old School on January 25th, 2012

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Should hybrid vehicle owners receive legal compensation if their vehicles don't achieve the EPA fuel economy figures?

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  • by RosieGHM Jetpacker on January 26th, 2012

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    I heard about the gal suing. She was promised 50mpg and only got 30. Was that promise in writing or in the advertising or just verbal schtick from the salesperson? Was it on the windshield sticker I wonder? Yeah I think they should sue. That is a huge difference. It ain't 5 miles it's 20 miles! False advertising. Aren't there laws against that OS? Happy Thursday! :)

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    • The law is that they have to show the EPA rating, which was the 50, not the 30. The law required false advertising.

      TheGrimReefer

      by TheGrimReefer on January 26th, 2012

    • @RosieG - As I've noted in another comment, the problem is that EPA test procedures (especially prior to the late-2000s) did not reflect the real world very well. This was especially true for hybrid cars.

      While I understand the frustration of the owners, the problem really isn't with Honda, it's with the EPA test procedures.

      Old School

      by Old School on January 26th, 2012

    • So the gal's target is misplaced then? She should sue the EPA? Good luck with that! :(

      RosieGHM Jetpacker

      by RosieGHM Jetpacker on January 26th, 2012

    • @RosieG - There really is no other option than to have a standardized testing procedure to compare fuel economy between vehicles.

      I typically got 14-15 mpg in Shaq. Yet his new owner tells me that he gets closer to 16-17 mpg most of the time. On one trip from Arizona to Riverside, I hit an huge headwind and Shaq only did 9 mpg for that trip.

      Similarly, my motorcycle reliably achieved 45-50 mpg in California. Here on Oahu, I'm getting about 35-40 mpg.

      Yes, the EPA should do a better job of making its standardized tests be a better model of the real world. They tried to do that when they revised the procedures around 2005-2006.

      But every car advertisement I've ever seen or heard that lists EPA figures always includes the disclaimer "Your mileage may vary".

      Old School

      by Old School on January 27th, 2012

    • Mahalo for taking the time to explain the nitty gritty to me OS. I appreciate it very much. So why can't the infamous 'they' tell you that "your mileage may vary greatly..don't blame us!"? They say that, no one buys their cars right? So they are minimalasts in explaining what they mean because it suits them? Aarrgghh! :(

      RosieGHM Jetpacker

      by RosieGHM Jetpacker on January 27th, 2012

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