by Emma is sick of ignorant bullies on August 1st, 2007

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If a Jewish person ate a cheeseburger, would they burn in hell?

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  • by AntigoneRising on August 1st, 2007

    AntigoneRising

    This question has quite a few problems.

    #1 - A burger isn't inherently unkosher. It is the way the animal is slaughtered and processed that makes it kosher or unkosher (with the notable exception of pork/pig). Cheeseburger would be unkosher by strict observance because it brings dairy and meat together at the same time (see comments).

    #2 - Judaism isn't a religion focused on the afterlife, as is Christianity. It isn't focused on reward or punishment in the afterlife. It is focused on how to live by Yahweh's law in THIS life. Therefore, whether or not you eat unkosher food isn't about what happens to you after you die, it is about your relationship with Yahweh while you are alive.

    #3 - Judaism does not share the same ideas about the afterlife as does Christianity. Sorry, it just doesn't. The concept of the firey pit of Hell is Christian, not Jewish. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/06-Jewish-Thought/section-9.html

    So, no, they wouldn't.

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    • Thanks-I didn't know that. Does Judaism have any kind of afterlife concept?

      Emma is sick of ignorant bullies

      by Emma is sick of ignorant bullies on August 1st, 2007

    • Yes, read the link. Many people in Western societies view Christianity as an extension of Judaism, but it didn't just extend Judaism, it changed several key theology points. For instance, in Judaism, the devil works FOR Yahweh. There never was a rebellion.

      AntigoneRising

      by AntigoneRising on August 1st, 2007

    • Good answer! I gave you four points but the negative went grey... I keep clicking plus... some glitch, I hope it gave you the +4!

      Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here

      by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on August 1st, 2007

    • Thanks, Zandalee.

      AntigoneRising

      by AntigoneRising on August 1st, 2007

    • Very good answer!

      Farino

      by Farino on August 2nd, 2007

    • I have to disagree, unfortunately.
      1) A cheeseburger IS inherently unkosher, as the Torah forbids eating meat & milk ("Do not cook a kid in its mother's milk).

      BUT, I definitely agree on the point that Judaism isn't Hell-bent : )

      ChabadRabbi

      by ChabadRabbi on August 2nd, 2007

    • If meat is inherently unkosher I'll need you to inform my Jewish friends about that. Incidentally, what is the point of kosher hotdogs then, if all meat is banned, isn't "kosher hotdog" an oxymoron? Or specifically prohibiting pork when all meat is banned? And why are you referencing a quote about a "kid" (goat) in a discussion about hamburger (beef)? Are you saying Jews are vegetarian?

      AntigoneRising

      by AntigoneRising on August 2nd, 2007

    • I think chabad meant meat *with* cheese was unkosher... not inherently that meat OR cheese were ... hence the comment about the goat. I am only guessing but that is how I read it. I also think, from my extrapolation of what the user said: laying a piece of cheese on kosher meat is not the same as boiling a kid in it's mother's milk. Cooking meat in milk is unkosher... putting them together afterward wouldn't be... I think. ( My studies in to Judaism were limited)

      Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here

      by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on August 3rd, 2007

    • I've heard that cooking meat in milk is unkosher (per the quote above), but have not been exposed to the idea that they cannot be consumed together. I see no reason why the cheese cannot be put on the meat after cooking is through. I'll have to look into this further. Apparently Orthodox Judaism sees consuming them together as a problem: http://www.askmoses.com/article.html?h=146&o=276 . Apparently, "milk" has been interpreted to mean anything dairy, and "cook in" has been interpreted to mean "consume simultaneously". Interesting. Another link: http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/practices/kosher.htm I've edited my answer to accomodate this.

      AntigoneRising

      by AntigoneRising on August 3rd, 2007

    • We live and learn I guess.

      Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here

      by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on August 3rd, 2007

    • @ AntigoneRising: Sorry, I should have clarified. Orthodox Judaism teaches that Jews may not cook/ eat any meat & dairy mixture (milk, cheese etc. etc.) and the "kid" in the verse is merely an example of what's forbidden.

      ChabadRabbi

      by ChabadRabbi on August 3rd, 2007

    • Hamburger helper will never be served at a Judaic function/celebration. That's a good thing.

      Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here

      by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on August 3rd, 2007

    • Hamburger Helper...ewwww...*shudders*

      AntigoneRising

      by AntigoneRising on August 3rd, 2007

    • lol. Exactly!

      Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here

      by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on August 3rd, 2007

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