by Mister_Bromyde on October 23rd, 2011

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Are there any gay Mormons?

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  • by laie_techie on October 23rd, 2011

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    Being tempted is not a sin, but acting on a temptation may be.

    There are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with homosexual attraction. Such members can be in good standing within the Church as long as they follow the Law of Chastity (and other commandments). All inappropriate sexual acts may lead to disfellowship or excommunication.

    Let's turn this to another commandment within the Church: The Word of Wisdom. The Word of Wisdom forbids coffee, tobacco, tea, and illicit drugs. I *love* the aroma and flavor of coffee (I'll often walk down the coffee aisle in the grocer's for a whiff), but it's not a sin as long as I don't actually partake of it. I'm tempted, but I don't give into my temptation.

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    • Then strip bars are ok too? Pornography?

      Mister_Bromyde

      by Mister_Bromyde on October 23rd, 2011

    • What do you think? The Church is vehemently against pornography in its many forms. What are strip bars but live pornography?

      laie_techie

      by laie_techie on October 23rd, 2011

    • If you can smell that illicit coffee and not drink it, and that is not giving into temptation. Than you should be able to watch a stripper and not have sex with her.

      Your nose and your eyes are both sensory body parts. Feeding information to your brain. Whether you drank that horrible evil (LOL) coffee or not, you still partook of it.

      Joseph Smith was a fraud  and Eisegete

      by Joseph Smith was a fraud and Eisegete on October 24th, 2011

    • To smell coffee is not the same as to drink it, however the Lord said: "whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
      One does not suffer the same consequences for smelling and drinking coffee, the addictive caffeine (for example) does not enter the body through the aroma.
      However, one does suffer many of the same consequences looking at pornography or going to a strip club as they would if they were participtating in sex outside the bonds of marraige.
      Lets not compare Apples and Volkswaggens.

      John Cox will be back April 6th 2013

      by John Cox will be back April 6th 2013 on October 24th, 2011

    • Hay Bromide. Take a look at Utah statistics. Focusing on Provo, Salt Lake and Ogdon. Utah has the highest rate of online Porn subscriptions in America.

      They also have one the highest rates for Incest, rape, spousal beating and suicide.

      Let's compare Mormons and pornography

      Joseph Smith was a fraud  and Eisegete

      by Joseph Smith was a fraud and Eisegete on October 24th, 2011

    • Of course we are all imperfect and sin, but just because we do not 'physically' sin does not mean we have not sinned.

      Matthew 5:27-28 - “You heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart".

      Abzter

      by Abzter on October 25th, 2011

    • I've covered this with you before Joe Fraud, not only does Utah not have the highest rates for those things, but being only 46% Mormon even if it did it would not reflect upon the church.
      If you want to make a case find some statistics for the rate of Mormons who commit incest, rape, spousal abuse or suicide.
      As most would guess the number is very low.

      John Cox will be back April 6th 2013

      by John Cox will be back April 6th 2013 on October 25th, 2011

    • John, I am sorry if I do not believe you. It is more than difficult to believe anything said by a member of the Mormon church, since the whole doctrine and belief system is based on lies and the ability to control what people read and hear.

      If you would like to show statistics in your defense go right ahead. I have done the research and I no interest in attempting to debate it with you. I stand on my above comment as fact.

      Joseph Smith was a fraud  and Eisegete

      by Joseph Smith was a fraud and Eisegete on October 25th, 2011

    • You are the one making the claim, but of course you will not provide any sources to support your claim because there are none.

      John Cox will be back April 6th 2013

      by John Cox will be back April 6th 2013 on October 25th, 2011

    • While I'm waiting for your sources here are some of mine:
      Rape- Utah comes in at #34 (869) California is #1 at (9,212)
      Robbery- Utah comes in at #38 (1,245) California is #1 at (70,968)
      Suicide- Utah #34 (336) California is #1 again at (3,397)
      Suicide per capita- Utah is tied for 11th at (136 in a million) Wyoming is number one at (214 in a million) New York is last at (61 in a million)
      Sexual Orientation Related hate crimes (thought I should put in one that was topical)- Utah 37 (6) Califonia #1 (246)

      http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_hat_cri_sex_ori_rel-hate-crimes-sexual-orientation-related

      John Cox will be back April 6th 2013

      by John Cox will be back April 6th 2013 on October 25th, 2011

    • well Joe i think John just blew your argument to shreds.

      Does it matter?

      by Does it matter? on October 25th, 2011

    • Very interesting information. I wonder how current it is John. And do you know how reliable it is?

      Joseph Smith was a fraud  and Eisegete

      by Joseph Smith was a fraud and Eisegete on October 25th, 2011

    • You can look at the link provided. It was the best resource I could find. I'm still awaiting your sources

      John Cox will be back April 6th 2013

      by John Cox will be back April 6th 2013 on October 25th, 2011

    • well god has gotten much smarter in the last 100 years,,now they find that coffee and tea are very good for you..or maybe joe smith figured if you had money for tea and coffee you would buy it instead of giving it to the church{false church}but tea kills cancer cells in your body but lds blessing aint worth a shit because you are praying to saten the morman god

      Fred_G4954

      by Fred_G4954 on January 23rd, 2012

    • Coffee and tea are not good for you, anything that kills cancer cells kills normal cells, that's why it's not a good idea to take cancer medicine when you are healthy.

      John Cox will be back April 6th 2013

      by John Cox will be back April 6th 2013 on January 23rd, 2012

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